Hi,

I haven't seen any reply to the John Close / Mac question. Did I miss
something? What's the verdict?

For my part, I can see that it would be possible to construct a 2D shape
(approximately oval), which when set in equatorial plane, would cast a
shadow giving a certain EoT adjustment - you would read off the time from
the leading edge of the shadow of the oval.

Next day, the EoT is different so the oval is a different size. You would
need to stack a parallel set of these ovals to form a "cylinder" along the
polar axis, and have something to indicate which one to use for a given day.

But on the second day, the declination is different as well. A sun ray
trying to touch the edge of the smaller oval will be blocked by the larger
one adjacent to it (or vice versa). So the thing wouldn't work.

To get round the latter problem, you would have to set the plane of each
day's oval according to the declination of the sun on that day. The ovals
are not quite the same shape as before, but the principle is the same. You
would end up with a gnomon which was a bit like a bull's horn - curved and
changing in thickness along its length (according to EoT).

You would have to swap the gnomon for another when the declination changes
from decreasing to increasing.

Your timescale would be an East-West line instead of a face with a set of
hourlines, so it wouldn't handle morning and evening well (a bit like a
polar dial)

but I think it would work....

Steve


> "Does anyone have any ideas for a Polar Dial which allows for an
> Equation of Time adjustment. I would not like analemma shaped hour
> lines as I think this would detract from the simplicity and
> minimalistic quality of a Polar Dial. I am told an analemma shaped
> gnomon for a polar dial would be hideously complicated and probably
> not work . Any ideas anyone? John Close"
>
> John has discussed this problem with several members of this list,
> including me, Bill Gottesman, John Davis, and Pete Swanstrom. Some of
> us think that a 3-D gnomon could be designed for use with straight
> hour lines to correct for EoT, and some are skeptical.
> Please share your comments and suggestions.

> P.S. Since I do not know if John Close is a member of this List,
> please cc to him.
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