While I can't quote a source at this time, it is to my understanding that there is a 1-2% energy use DEcrease with DST.  This is because of less light usage in the evenings.   This argument could be better made for just keeping the clocks on DSL year-round.  Airconditioners run much more efficiently by turning them on in the early morning when one expects it to be hot during the day, preventing the house from ever heating up (even when you wont be home until evening).  Thus, negating additional costs as John outlined otherwise.  John has a point regarding additional man-hours, but it as an excuse to keep ourselves familiar with our electronic gadgets.  Personally I am less likely to miss an appt just after we change clocks because I am thinking more about it.  Seeing how slow the Congress works, esp. on proactive "energy" policy it will be interesting to see if any of us live to see the current DST changed.
 
Thad
 
John Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Daylight Savings Time should be abolished.  It costs the people of this country millions if not billions of dollars each year.  It costs you money in several ways.
 
1. Lost man-hours in resetting all timepieces twice a year (this includes time lost trying to figure out how to reset them by reading the owner's manual of your TV, DVD player, camera, cell phone, car stereo, microwave, oven, watch, computer, etc. etc. etc.)
 
2. Missed appointments (from forgetting to reset your timepieces)
 
3. Higher air conditioning (cooling) costs.  Everybody turns on their air conditioning in the summer evenings when they get home from work.  This means that millions of air conditioners work for an extra hour in the summer.  Can you imagine how much this costs!
 
DLS was enacted in 1967 to help farmers.  There were few airconditioners and lots of farmers.  Times have changed.  Now there are lots of airconditioners and few farmers.  So the reasons for its being are no longer valid.
 
that's my 2 cents worth...
 
John  
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Is the USA 'Daylight-Saving' period to be extended ?

Originally when the States was an agricultural society, it may have been more important to tie it to the school year to best utilize family child labor.  As our current DST is set-up it starts about 4-6 weeks before most schools let out and ends 4-6 weeks after kids return.  I agree with Mark that it would make a lot more sense to tie DST to the summer solstice and run DST Feb-Nov or year round.  Most people I know would rather have the extra hour in the evening than morning.
 
Thad Weakley
42.2N 83.8W  (aka Ann Arbor, Michigan USA)

Mark Gingrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Douglas Hunt asked:

> Can any of the USA-based members of this mailing-list confirm if there are
> any proposals currently being considered by your "Congress", to change the
> 'Daylight-Saving Time' period of each year - which is April to October, at
> the moment, but may be extended to cover the months of March to November ?


Yes, the U.S. Congress is presently discussing whether to extend DST from
the first Sunday in March to the last Sunday in November -- an increase
in the duration of DST by about two months. See the following short
article that appeared in the _San Francisco Chronicle_ on 9 April:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/09/MNGCUC5RCV1.DTL


Either way, I still don't understood why our DST period is not centered
on the June solstice.


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John Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Daylight Savings Time should be abolished.  It costs the people of this country millions if not billions of dollars each year.  It costs you money in several ways.
 
1. Lost man-hours in resetting all timepieces twice a year (this includes time lost trying to figure out how to reset them by reading the owner's manual of your TV, DVD player, camera, cell phone, car stereo, microwave, oven, watch, computer, etc. etc. etc.)
 
2. Missed appointments (from forgetting to reset your timepieces)
 
3. Higher air conditioning (cooling) costs.  Everybody turns on their air conditioning in the summer evenings when they get home from work.  This means that millions of air conditioners work for an extra hour in the summer.  Can you imagine how much this costs!
 
DLS was enacted in 1967 to help farmers.  There were few airconditioners and lots of farmers.  Times have changed.  Now there are lots of airconditioners and few farmers.  So the reasons for its being are no longer valid.
 
that's my 2 cents worth...
 
John  
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Is the USA 'Daylight-Saving' period to be extended ?

Originally when the States was an agricultural society, it may have been more important to tie it to the school year to best utilize family child labor.  As our current DST is set-up it starts about 4-6 weeks before most schools let out and ends 4-6 weeks after kids return.  I agree with Mark that it would make a lot more sense to tie DST to the summer solstice and run DST Feb-Nov or year round.  Most people I know would rather have the extra hour in the evening than morning.
 
Thad Weakley
42.2N 83.8W  (aka Ann Arbor, Michigan USA)

Mark Gingrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Douglas Hunt asked:

> Can any of the USA-based members of this mailing-list confirm if there are
> any proposals currently being considered by your "Congress", to change the
> 'Daylight-Saving Time' period of each year - which is April to October, at
> the moment, but may be extended to cover the months of March to November ?


Yes, the U.S. Congress is presently discussing whether to extend DST from
the first Sunday in March to the last Sunday in November -- an increase
in the duration of DST by about two months. See the following short
article that appeared in the _San Francisco Chronicle_ on 9 April:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/09/MNGCUC5RCV1.DTL


Either way, I still don't understood why our DST period is not centered
on the June solstice.


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