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Thaddeus wrote:
<Seeing how slow the Congress works, esp. on proactive "energy" policy
it will be interesting to see if any of us live to see the current DST
changed.
As a matter of fact, by coincidence, yesterday, the Indiana State
Legislature voted 51 to 46 to adopt DST to conform to the rest of the
country. The Governor is expected to sign the legislation. I
heard it on our local radio. The man that sponsored the bill said that
they did it "because it was the right thing to do" whatever that means. I
wonder if the legislature actually looked at and considered all the
arguments for and against DST.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:57
AM
Subject: Re: Is the USA 'Daylight-Saving'
period to be extended ?
While I can't quote a source at this time, it is to my understanding that
there is a 1-2% energy use DEcrease with DST. This is because of
less light usage in the evenings. This argument could be
better made for just keeping the clocks on DSL year-round.
Airconditioners run much more efficiently by turning them on in the early
morning when one expects it to be hot during the day, preventing the house
from ever heating up (even when you wont be home until evening). Thus,
negating additional costs as John outlined otherwise. John has a point
regarding additional man-hours, but it as an excuse to keep ourselves familiar
with our electronic gadgets. Personally I am less likely to miss an
appt just after we change clocks because I am thinking more about
it. Seeing how slow the Congress works, esp. on proactive "energy"
policy it will be interesting to see if any of us live to see the current DST
changed.
Thad
John Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Daylight Savings Time should be
abolished. It costs the people of this country millions if not
billions of dollars each year. It costs you money in several
ways.
1. Lost man-hours in resetting all timepieces
twice a year (this includes time lost trying to figure out how to reset
them by reading the owner's manual of your TV, DVD player, camera, cell
phone, car stereo, microwave, oven, watch, computer, etc. etc.
etc.)
2. Missed appointments (from forgetting to
reset your timepieces)
3. Higher air conditioning
(cooling) costs. Everybody turns on their air conditioning in the
summer evenings when they get home from work. This means that millions
of air conditioners work for an extra hour in the summer. Can you
imagine how much this costs!
DLS was enacted in 1967 to help farmers.
There were few airconditioners and lots of farmers. Times have
changed. Now there are lots of airconditioners and few
farmers. So the reasons for its being are no longer
valid.
that's my 2 cents worth...
John
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:59
PM
Subject: Re: Is the USA
'Daylight-Saving' period to be extended ?
Originally when the States was an agricultural society, it may
have been more important to tie it to the school year to best utilize
family child labor. As our current DST is set-up it starts
about 4-6 weeks before most schools let out and ends 4-6 weeks
after kids return. I agree with Mark that it would make a lot more
sense to tie DST to the summer solstice and run DST Feb-Nov or year
round. Most people I know would rather have the extra hour in the
evening than morning.
Thad Weakley
42.2N 83.8W (aka Ann Arbor, Michigan USA)
Mark
Gingrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Douglas
Hunt asked:
> Can any of the USA-based members of this
mailing-list confirm if there are
> any proposals currently being
considered by your "Congress", to change the
> 'Daylight-Saving
Time' period of each year - which is April to October, at
> the
moment, but may be extended to cover the months of March to November
?
Yes, the U.S. Congress is presently discussing whether to
extend DST from
the first Sunday in March to the last Sunday in
November -- an increase
in the duration of DST by about two months.
See the following short
article that appeared in the _San Francisco
Chronicle_ on 9
April:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/09/MNGCUC5RCV1.DTL
Either
way, I still don't understood why our DST period is not centered
on
the June solstice.
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California
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Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Daylight Savings Time should be
abolished. It costs the people of this country millions if not
billions of dollars each year. It costs you money in several
ways.
1. Lost man-hours in resetting all timepieces
twice a year (this includes time lost trying to figure out how to reset
them by reading the owner's manual of your TV, DVD player, camera, cell
phone, car stereo, microwave, oven, watch, computer, etc. etc.
etc.)
2. Missed appointments (from forgetting to
reset your timepieces)
3. Higher air conditioning
(cooling) costs. Everybody turns on their air conditioning in the
summer evenings when they get home from work. This means that millions
of air conditioners work for an extra hour in the summer. Can you
imagine how much this costs!
DLS was enacted in 1967 to help farmers.
There were few airconditioners and lots of farmers. Times have
changed. Now there are lots of airconditioners and few
farmers. So the reasons for its being are no longer
valid.
that's my 2 cents worth...
John
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:59
PM
Subject: Re: Is the USA
'Daylight-Saving' period to be extended ?
Originally when the States was an agricultural society, it may
have been more important to tie it to the school year to best utilize
family child labor. As our current DST is set-up it starts
about 4-6 weeks before most schools let out and ends 4-6 weeks
after kids return. I agree with Mark that it would make a lot more
sense to tie DST to the summer solstice and run DST Feb-Nov or year
round. Most people I know would rather have the extra hour in the
evening than morning.
Thad Weakley
42.2N 83.8W (aka Ann Arbor, Michigan USA)
Mark
Gingrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Douglas
Hunt asked:
> Can any of the USA-based members of this
mailing-list confirm if there are
> any proposals currently being
considered by your "Congress", to change the
> 'Daylight-Saving
Time' period of each year - which is April to October, at
> the
moment, but may be extended to cover the months of March to November
?
Yes, the U.S. Congress is presently discussing whether to
extend DST from
the first Sunday in March to the last Sunday in
November -- an increase
in the duration of DST by about two months.
See the following short
article that appeared in the _San Francisco
Chronicle_ on 9
April:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/09/MNGCUC5RCV1.DTL
Either
way, I still don't understood why our DST period is not centered
on
the June solstice.
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Mark Gingrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Leandro,
California
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