I must express my gratitude for all of your participation in my query!
I think it would be foolish of me to reveal the time just yet. I was so
impressed with all th responces and the dialog that I just can't cut it
off now. All of the responces were great in giving us opinions about the
event time.

How 'bout another question;
when does morning start and end. ie. is sunrise when the solar disk first
breaks the horizon or when it clears the horizon? and to that respect
would someone dare to put a technical defination to the term "gloaming" if
that is the right spelling?

Thanks again for you responces the light has not yet shone

Bart

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