On the thread of DeltaCad Macro, I have done some quite extensive macros for DeltaCad, for some sundial-related and other applications. When I encountered some "sticky wickets" with the code, I contacted DeltaCad and they informed me that they really don't handle Macro. They paid Cypress Software to provide a version of Basic that would work as a Macro for DeltaCad. When I contacted Cypress Software, they told me that they had a contract to provide DeltaCad with a Macro (Basic) engine and that was the extent of their commitment; it was not their policy to provide support for non-paying customers (like end users). I finally shamed someone at Cypress into answering my direct questions. (I even offered the results to the sundial mail list, but didn't receive any response. ) So I don't think John would get very much response from DeltaCad.
And as John pointed out, his presentation should be his usual straight forward approach to sundial design rather than the details of Basic. I wish I could be there for the presentation, I am sure it will be good. Robert Hough ShadowMaster 32.37 N 111.13 W -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Warren: > > Remember the NASS meeting in Hartford? That was the first meeting I went to > and I met you. You were the person who turned me on to Delta Cad. Could you > send me your article or pin down the issue it appeared in? > > Fred's schedule is jammed packed so I doubt that we can invite a software > representative to talk. But I will try to do a good job. I don't know > anything about scripting, whatever that is! (Does it have something to do > with making macros?). My talk will be oriented to the people who just want > to design sundials. I'll talk about using the popular sundial generator > programs such as Shadows and Zonwvlak in conjunction with Delta Cad. And > I'll talk about using existing available sundial macros, but not on how to > make a macro. (I can't do that either). Mac Oglesby and Fer are the only > guys on The List that I know who have made any sundial Delta Cad macros. > Then finally, if I have time, I'll talk about bringing a DC drawing into > Photoshop if you want to do special things to your drawing such as adding > color or more artwork or transforming the drawing in other ways. > > > We'll miss seeing you! > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Thom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roger Bailey" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Sundial List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: Google Wall Declination > > > > Hi John, Roger and all, > > > > I am sorry that I will miss the 2006 meeting - first one I will miss since > > 2001. Glad to hear you are putting on a DeltaCad workshop. I was unaware > > about version 6, until you posted your message, John. In checking it > > out, they are located near the meeting. I would urge someone to contact > > them and invite them to the NASS conference. Midnight Software, Inc., > > P.O. Box 77352 ,Seattle, WA 98177-0352 , USA They could do a talk on the > > scripting that is available in DeltaCad. Ron Anthony was in contact with > > them ages ago about the scripting language. For your workshop, you might > > photocopy the article I wrote about 10 years ago for the Compendium. I do > > think DeltaCad is easy to use --- and I spent hours at my school trying to > > learn AutoCad -- and never got very far. I printed something from > > DeltaCad after my first 15 minutes. (I have no $$$$ interest in > > DeltaCad.) > > > > Take Care, > > > > Warren Thom > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Carmichael" > > To: "Roger Bailey" > >> Hi Roger: > >> > >> you asked: > >>> I assume that your Delta Cad workshop will cover the transfer of Zon dxf > >>> files to Delta Cad. > >> > >> Yes, of course! That will be an important little part of my Delta Cad > >> talk: How to import dxf, dwg and jpgs into a DC drawing. > >> > >> By the way, the new Delta Cad version 6.0 lets you import jpegs now. The > >> older version would only let you import bmps. (which are huge files). > >> This makes adding artwork/photos much easier and the files are smaller. > >> You should upgrade to 6.0 if you haven't already done it. It has other > >> useful features that 5.0 did not have. > >> > >> You might try importing a standard jpeg photo of your building wall in > >> DC. Then copy and paste a the DC drawing of your sundial on top of it. > >> You will see the DC sundial drawing on top of the photo. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Roger Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:17 AM > >> Subject: RE: Google Wall Declination > >> > >> > >>> Hi John, > >>> > >>> I assume that your Delta Cad workshop will cover the transfer of Zon dxf > >>> files to Delta Cad. The ability in Delta Cad to "select all" and "copy" > >>> to > >>> get the lines only as an overlay was a new one on me. Every other way I > >>> tried gave me an opaque white background, useless as an overlay. This > >>> works > >>> for PowerPoint, not for Photoshop or Word. There you get the white > >>> background. > >>> > >>> See you soon, > >>> > >>> Roger > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: John Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: July 20, 2006 7:07 AM > >>> To: Roger Bailey > >>> Subject: Re: Google Wall Declination > >>> > >>> > >>> Very Cool Roger! > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Roger Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "Sundial Mail List" <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:29 AM > >>> Subject: Google Wall Declination > >>> > >>> > >>>> We have had many discussions on this list on how to determine the > >>>> declination of a vertical wall. Let me suggest a new technique for not > >>>> only > >>>> wall declination but also location (latitude and longitude). Use the > >>>> satellite images on "Google Earth". An example is posted in three > >>>> PowerPoint > >>>> slides at: > >>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/rtbailey/WalkingShadow/WallDecG.ppt > >>>> > >>>> For my "Timelines" presentation, I was interested in analysing sundials > >>>> on > >>>> mosques in Istanbul. When I took pictures of the three sundials on the > >>>> New > >>>> Mosque "Yeni Camii", I did not take field measurements to determine the > >>>> wall > >>>> declination. No problem. Start up Google Earth and fly to Istanbul. > >>>> Without > >>>> rotating, just using the X/Y controls, zero in on the New Mosque and > >>>> save > >>>> the image. You can insert the saved image into a PowerPoint > >>>> presentation, > >>>> add the North South vertical axis, draw a line along the wall and > >>>> determine > >>>> the wall declination, perpendicular to the wall. > >>>> > >>>> Then start up Zon 2000 and enter the latitude and wall declination from > >>>> the > >>>> Google image into Fer de Vries program. Calculate for the example > >>>> sundial: > >>>> local hours, Italian hours and Islamic Prayer times. Clip the Zon > >>>> drawing, > >>>> save it as a dxf file and load the dxf file into Delta Cad. There you > >>>> can > >>>> trim the lines to recreate the dial on the wall. Select all and copy > >>>> the > >>>> lines as an overlay on the photograph (corrected for perspective) in > >>>> your > >>>> presentation. > >>>> > >>>> The Google Earth technique is sufficiently accurate with large > >>>> buildings > >>>> and > >>>> high resolution images. I have used it successfully for three mosques > >>>> in > >>>> Istanbul and the Klementinum in Prague. It even works for my home! The > >>>> full > >>>> story will be shown in Vancouver. > >>>> > >>>> A conclusion from this analysis is the sundials on the mosques in > >>>> Istanbul > >>>> show the mid afternoon prayer time "Asr" as in the standard horizontal > >>>> shadow length definition. But a different convention was used in > >>>> Istanbul > >>>> for "Zuhr", the prayer just after noon. The Zuhr lines are not based on > >>>> the > >>>> altitude giving the horizontal shadow length as the noon shadow length > >>>> + > >>>> 25% > >>>> of the vertical gnomon height. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Roger Bailey > >>>> Walking Shadow Designs > >>>> N 48:38:22.90, W 123:24:10.80, declining east 90 degrees by Google > >>>> Earth > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
