After the invention and the diffusion of the first bell tower clocks 
(1300-1400) the equal hours began to be used in Europe as a substitute 
for the unequal hours ,  used since the antiquity (for more than 1700 
years!).  
While previously the beginning of the day was fixed at dawn 
or at sunset (Islam), with the new hours the beginning of the day, that 
is the moment  from which to count the hours (hour 0) , was   fixed in 
different ways  in the different countries,  in the instant of  a 
peculiar observable astronomical phenomenon (at dawn,   noon,  sunset 
or midnight).  
In Italy  my ancestors chose the instant of the sunset 
( that is more easily observable of  dawn and also of  noon).  
The 
regulators of the clocks (  temperatori -as Frank King :-)  )   could 
easily set their tools observing the disappearance of the solar disk.  
For this reason the Italian hours (in Latin Italic)  begun to be 
counted from   sunset (hour 24).  
In Italy we have a saying that tells 
“portare il cappello sulle 23” (to wear the hat on the 23) to point out 
that a person wear the hat with the brim folded down to protect his 
eyes from the Sun, as it is necessary to do before sunset (23h = 
1hour    before   sunset)
The Italian hour ware abandoned  in the first 
half of the XIX century.

Today it’s enough a look to our wristwatch to 
know the time, while almost nobody knows when the Sun sets (also 
because with the standard time the calculation is not easy).   
For 
this reason some persons  built  sundials with the hours missing to 
sunset.    

I always recommend them, also because as soon as a person 
looks at a common sundial,  he also looks immediately  at his  
wristwatch and,   shaking his  head, often makes bitter considerations 
on the planner that has not succeeded in making an exact  sundial!
 
The sundials with hours to sunset  are obviously sundials with  Italian 
hours  - that only dialists   know  :-)  -  in which we have written 
the values of the complements from 24  .  

Best wishes
Gianni Ferrari

P.S. - One of the first clocks  with equal times is that painted by 
Paolo Uccello (Duomo Santa Maria del Fiore- Florence) : see in http:
//www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/u/uccello/3florenc/3clock.html  



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>Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Data: 7-
mag-2007 12.36
>A: "sundial List"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Ogg: 
Italian hours
>
>Italian hours are counted from sunset. One has to take 
its complement  
>from 24 to know the time left until suntime.
>Why 
sundials with Italian hours do'nt indicate directly the result of  
>this calculation? Is there a practical or historical reason?
>
>Willy 
LEENDERS
>Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)
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