Hi Gianni,

Yes, I believe time to sunset is a great type of dial usage.  As you say,
watches don't do it.  Some types of aircraft are required to be on the ground
a certain time before sunset and certain airports have sundials for that
purpose.  I just enjoy it as it gives me a good idea of how much time I have
left to work outdoors without lights.  It does wow casual viewers too!  For
some folk it tells them how much time left in the day.  I've started several
new dials for that purpose, but before I finish, someone comes up with a
newer dial design to do it, so off I hare in that new direction.  I've inherited
some good materials for the purpose, so, soon.

Thanks for the info.

Edley.

> After the invention and the diffusion of the first bell tower clocks
> (1300-1400) the equal hours began to be used in Europe as a substitute
> for the unequal hours ,  used since the antiquity (for more than 1700
> years!).  While previously the beginning of the day was fixed at dawn
> or at sunset (Islam), with the new hours the beginning of the day,
> that is the moment  from which to count the hours (hour 0) , was
> fixed in different ways  in the different countries,  in the instant
> of  a peculiar observable astronomical phenomenon (at dawn,   noon,
> sunset or midnight).  In Italy  my ancestors chose the instant of the
> sunset ( that is more easily observable of  dawn and also of  noon).
> The regulators of the clocks (  temperatori -as Frank King :-)  )
> could easily set their tools observing the disappearance of the solar
> disk.  For this reason the Italian hours (in Latin Italic)  begun to
> be counted from   sunset (hour 24).  In Italy we have a saying that
> tells "portare il cappello sulle 23" (to wear the hat on the 23)
> to point out that a person wear the hat with the brim folded down to
> protect his eyes from the Sun, as it is necessary to do before sunset
> (23h = 1hour    before   sunset) The Italian hour ware abandoned  in
> the first half of the XIX century.
>
> Today it´s enough a look to our wristwatch to
> know the time, while almost nobody knows when the Sun sets (also
> because with the standard time the calculation is not easy).   For
> this reason some persons  built  sundials with the hours missing to
> sunset.
>
> I always recommend them, also because as soon as a person
> looks at a common sundial,  he also looks immediately  at his
> wristwatch and,   shaking his  head, often makes bitter considerations
> on the planner that has not succeeded in making an exact  sundial!
>
> The sundials with hours to sunset  are obviously sundials with
> Italian hours  - that only dialists   know  :-)  -  in which we have
> written the values of the complements from 24  .
>
> Best wishes
> Gianni Ferrari
>
> P.S. - One of the first clocks  with equal times is that painted by
> Paolo Uccello (Duomo Santa Maria del Fiore- Florence) : see in http:
> //www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/u/uccello/3florenc/3clock.html
>
>
>
> >----Messaggio originale----
> >Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Data: 7-
> mag-2007 12.36
> >A: "sundial List"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Ogg:
> Italian hours
> >
> >Italian hours are counted from sunset. One has to take
> its complement
> >from 24 to know the time left until suntime.
> >Why
> sundials with Italian hours do'nt indicate directly the result of
> >this calculation? Is there a practical or historical reason? > >Willy
> LEENDERS >Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium) > >
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