Hello Mac,

I have an idea that you might want to try.  It appears that what may work is
a very thin protective coating.  The laminations and overlays are probably
all quite thick.  You could make your sundial from regular paper and spray a
clear coat on the surface.  The protective coating used on cars might work.
I don't know if you can buy this in a spray can but perhaps you may know
someone at a body shop.  If they were willing to spray a couple of sundials
for you it could be done so one has a very thin coating and another a
thicker coating.  This would give you an indication of how the thickness of
the clear coat affects the terminator.

There is also a special clear coat that can be sprayed on outdoor murals and
allows you to remove graffiti.  But I know this stuff is quite expensive.

Best wishes,

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: Mac Oglesby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:25 PM
To: Carl & Barbara Sabanski
Cc: Sundial List
Subject: RE: Waterproof papers



Hi Carl,

You wrote:

>If the cylinder azimuth sundial was printed on normal paper and then
>laminated that would give a durable dial.


Thanks for the suggestion.

Alas, in my tests, an azimuth cylinder sundial with a laminated paper
dial face does not have a good light/shadow boundary. I have tried
laminations and overlays of different thicknesses. It seems that even
a very thin layer of any transparent surface seriously deteriorates
the terminator.

A vinyl dial face, as printed by a commercial sign shop, seemed like
a great way to create a durable azimuth cylinder sundial, but the
terminator is weak.

Best wishes,

Mac
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