Hi Patrick, John C and the List,
   
  The problem of the shadow not properly filling the noon gap is the same 
umbra/penumbra related one which affects the reading accuracy of dials with 
'solid' gnomons at all times of the day.  This is usually ignored by dial 
makers but I know of one historical example where the maker seems to have 
offered a possible solution.
   
  An article by Vicki de Kleer (BSS Bulletin 19(iii), pp.116-117, September 
2007) describes an 1890 brass horizontal dial made by the London maker Charles 
Baker for Sumburgh in the Shetland Islands at latitude 59 degrees 52 minutes N. 
The dial has a comprehensive Equation of Time table engraved around its 
periphery and also the two intriguing instructions:
   
  "AM Sub.[tract] 1 min"
   
  and
   
  "PM Add 1 min".
   
  It seems to me that these instructions are implying that the true time is 
being indicated slightly further into the penumbra area of the shadow than the 
observer might normally expect. With a dial so far north, the effect of 'shadow 
tapering' will be more prononounced than on most other dials.
   
  Does anyone have a different interpretation of these instructions, or know of 
other dials wich have similar ones?
   
  Regards,
   
  John Davis
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Patrick Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > If you make the dial with a tublular gnomon, and you design the face so
that the time is read from the center of the shadow instead of the edges of
the gnomon's shadow, then you eliminate the Noon Gap. Do you think this is
the best solution? <

>From the point of view of an accurate dial, one that can be calculated and
one that members of the public can read easily, I am certain that it is. 

I have designed two 12m (or so) diameter dials this way and, by a proper
choice of gnomon diameter the shadow is very easy to read. Indeed, if you
want a bit of fun, if you have Google Earth and care to type in 52 45'
16.28"N, 01 08' 12.33" W then you go directly to the second of these
dials. It's in Barrow-on-Soar in Leicestershire, UK. The time can even be
read from space (well, with good magnifcation it can ). Google Earth's
imaging is so good that I have even thought of trying to calculate what day
that photo was taken - though I haven't done so yet. (If anyone wants to
try, the gnomon length was such that the shadow on the summer solstice just
touches the outer diameter of the chapter ring which is just inside the
'mini-stonehenge' like stone circle).

Regards

Patrick

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