Hi Jos,

Great idea!

You can do it without a clock:
Eccentricity and phase were established in classical times (by Ptolemy) by 
timing as accurately as possible the solstices and equinoxes.
Timing the equinoxes is relatively easy, as you need a nodus, or something 
equivalent, with which to observe when the sun is exactly in the equatorial 
plane. As the declination is changing quickly you should be able to judge it 
quite well. You need to judge it to within an hour or two, at least. Tough luck 
if that turns out to be during the night!
Timing the solstices is much much harder. One suggestion is to observe the 
sun's altitude at noon for several days either side of the solstice, then 
calculate or draw a graph to interpolate to the moment of solstice.
Once you know the lengths of the four seasons you can calculate the 
eccentricity and the dates of perihelion and aphelion. The Ptolemaic model, 
with the sun on a uniform circular orbit about a fixed point in space somewhere 
near the earth, is quite accurate enough for these purposes. By the way, 
Ptolemy seems to have cheated - he got more accurate figures for the 
eccentricity than his data warranted.
You could go the whole hog and fit your observations to an ellipse, of course.

If you allow the use of a clock as well as your sundial, you can make daily 
measurements of the Equation of Time. After a year you can perform a Fourier 
analysis on the data to find both the eccentricity and the obliquity components.

What a great project. Let us know what results you get.

Chris Lusby Taylor
51.4N 1.3W




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jos Kint 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:11 AM
  Subject: Earth eccentricity


  Hello all,


  I am looking for some help in observing the earth's orbital eccentricity, 
just by using my sun dial. Who gives me some hint? With my vertical 2,5 meter 
by 1,5 meter sun dial I can measure the local solar time with an accuracy of  
less than 60 seconds.

  Jos Kint, Belgium


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