Hi Peter: I don't think this is a polar axis gnomon because it looks like it hangs horizontally, and we know it is not located at the Equator.
I can't speak for Mac, but you might be refering to the "planar" dials that Mac wrote about in the Compendium, where he used horizontal blocks for each hour. It might be that, but most likely it's not I think. My best guess it still that the pointed tip might function as a nodus that casts a colorful pointed shadow on the ground or on a wall. It would be great if a dialist who lives near there could sweet-talk their way into get permission to see it, since the building is closed to the public. We need to find out if there are any traditional sundial face markings on the ground or walls. I did find out from a glass artist the name of the artist who made it. His name is Larry Kirkland from Seattle. I'm going to try to locate him to ask him about it. I'll let you know if I find out anything. Thanks for writing, John -----Original Message----- From: Peter Mayer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:14 AM To: John Carmichael Cc: 'Roger Bailey'; [email protected] Subject: RE: Is this thing a sundial? I am a Sundial! Hi John, I'm on the road, far from references, but it occurred to me that your 'dial' could be a 'Mac Oglesby'-type suspended bar dial (I'm not sure if it has a proper name!) if the shadow is cast by a polar gnomon. Perhaps Mac can set me right on this. best wishes, Peter Mayer Quoting John Carmichael <[email protected]>: > Hi Roger, > > > > Of course you are right in that general sense, but I want to know if it is a > 'formal' dial in the traditional sense- with some sort of hour or date lines > or markings. But it's good to know that you are thinking outside the box! > > > > I'm going to try to contact somebody there who might have more information. > Too bad the building is not open to the public. > > > > Best always, > > > > John > > > > From: Roger Bailey [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:47 AM > To: John Carmichael; Sundial List > Subject: Re: Is this thing a sundial? I am a Sundial! > > > > Hi John and all, > > > > If the Kirkland Needle is a sundial then I am a sundial. > > > > When I stand in certain places, my shadow tells me the time of day, the > seasons of the year, where and when the sun rises > > > > The length of my shadow tells me when to pray by the Benedictine and Moslem > rites. > > > > My hand is a sundial, the thumb as a gnomon and fingers as hour lines are > useful as a sundial. > > > > Counting the fingers of my outstretched hand between the sun and the horizon > tells me the time to sunset. > > > > I am a sundial. > > > > Regards, Roger Bailey > > > > * I will not describe how Beavis and Butthead described "High Noon on my > sundial" > > > > > > > > From: John <mailto:[email protected]> Carmichael > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:21 PM > > To: Sundial List <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Is this thing a sundial? > > > > Hi Dialsts: > > > > I was looking for new sundials photos and came across this glass "thing" at: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/avelino_maestas/2448169052/ > > > > The photo caption says that it is a sundial located "in the atrium in the > National Acaedmies building". But that's all it says. If it is really a > sundial, it sure doesn't look like any type of sundial I have ever seen. > There is no sundial face, shadow, or projected light beam visible in the > photo. > > > > All I can think of is that the point at the end of the truss-like structure > might be a nodus that is casting a shadow on a wall or on the ground > somewhere beneath it and out of view in this photo. > > > > Do any of you know anything about it? Is it really a sundial? In what city > and country i it located? Who made it? > > > > Thx > > > > John > > > > > > John L. Carmichael > > Sundial Sculptures > > 925 E. 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