Hello Linda:

I read you letter of concern about builing a public human sundial.

I was shocked and upset to see the following outrageous comments at:
www.sunclocks.com/pics/fs-015.htm

"Keep in mind, that some of the "Sunclocks"
<http://www.sunclocks.com/index.htm>   sited within a public
area, will also tend to become a 'meeting-place' for those people
that you may not want to be gathering there  -  such as any drug-
addicts (plus their dealers), prostitutes, vagrants, alcoholics, etc. 
 
Because 'Human Sundials' <http://www.sunclocks.com/human.html>  are
particularly popular with children,
these could also unfortunately attract paedophiles into that area. 
 
For the above reasons, we would not recommend installations in
(for example) a housing development  -  just because people will
NOT be very happy having this 'feature', in their neighbourhood !"

I have been making and selling public sundials for fifteen years.  I have
NEVER heard ANY complaints, fears, testimony, or any comments from ANYONE
that would justify comments like this.

I suggest that you completely forget these comments and continue with your
wonderful plans for a public sundial.

Wishing you great success,

John L. Carmichael

Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson AZ 85718-4716
USA
Tel: 520-6961709
Email: [email protected] 

My Websites:
(business) Sundial Sculptures: http://www.sundialsculptures.com
<http://www.sundialsculptures.com/>  
(educational) Chinook Trail Sundial:
http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/COSprings/
(educational) Earth & Sky Equatorial Sundial:
http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Earth-Sky_Dial/  
(educational) Gnomons, Styles & Nodi:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1207...@n23/ 
(educational) My Painted Wall Sundial:
http://www.advanceassociates.com/WallDial 
(educational) Painted Wall Sundials:
http://advanceassociates.com/WallDial/PWS_Home.html 
(educational) Stained Glass Sundials: http://www.stainedglasssundials.com
<http://www.stainedglasssundials.com/>  
(educational) Sundial Cupolas, Towers & Chimneys:
http://StainedGlassSundials.com/CupolaSundial/index.html 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Linda Reid
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Do the Police really object, to interactive 'Human Sundial'
features?


Dear Members of this 'Mailing List',

I am a mosaic artist, based in the United Kingdom - and am currently
working with a local Community Arts organisation on a project, plus
one part of which is to be a proposed "Sunclock" ('Human' Sundial).

We were intending to obtain a customized set of layout plans, from
"Modern Sunclocks" (in Scotland) - but it seems that they require a
'disclaimer' letter from us, acknowledging that we fully understand
all the implications of creating this feature in a public location.

They directed us to a page on their website, which details what can
happen - that specific page is:  www.sunclocks.com/pics/fs-015.htm


Those 'negative' aspects are outlined at the top of that page, and
they also said that Planning Permission might not be approved - due
to objections raised by local residents, plus 'Police' authorities.

I then had a brief discussion with a local Police Community Liaison
Officer, who said that he fully appreciates why "Modern Sunclocks"
were just being honest with us - plus that some interactive public
features would be likely to attract 'undesirable' people, who "take
it over" as theirs (so discouraging people who we want to use it).


Is this really true, that what we think should be a very colourful,
functional and interactive 'Human' Sundial - will eventually become
a feature which actually the local population do NOT want to have?

"Modern Sunclocks" were very helpful - and said that they could sell
three times as many sets of plans, if only they did not have to warn
customers about the 'implications' (based on many years experience).


Do the members of this 'List' have any comments (good or bad), about
installing such interactive sundials - since we do not want to go to
the time and expense of creating this, if local people do not really
want it.  Most people said they would be happy, (although we did not
mention any of those negative factors, when conducting short "market
research" - because we were totally unaware of them, at that time).

I shall very much look forward to receiving feedback, on the above.


Sincerely,

Linda Reid.



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