Now take a look at Holbein's Nicholas Kratzer, painted in 1528 which is in the 
Louvre (copy in National Portrait Gallery). Kratzer was a German mathematician, 
astronomer and instrument maker who worked as King Henry VIII's astrologer. He 
was a drinking friend of Holbein. Find his picture in the Wikepedia entry for 
Nicholas Kratzer.

Holbein was probably using Kratzer's instruments in the Ambassador's picture, 
which was painted a few years later in 1533. Same shepherd's dial, same strange 
instrument, same polyhedral dial (but unfinished), same little dial-like thing 
with the spike and square hole on his table.

Best regards
Kevin Karney
Freedom Cottage, Llandogo, Monmouth NP25 4TP, Wales, UK
51° 44' N 2° 41' W Zone 0
+ 44 1594 530 595

On 4 Feb 2011, at 07:59, [email protected] wrote:

> 
> After only recently learning of the Google Art Project, I looked at Holbein's 
> Ambassadors today and like many others I was amazed at the resolution. This 
> huge painting, it's not far off 7ft square, is here in London at the National 
> Gallery and it is now available to view under Google's Art Project at:
> 
> http://www.googleartproject.com/museums/nationalgallery/the-ambassadors
> 
> Painted in 1533 it has the most interesting collection of contemporary 
> dialling equipment all of which are painted in immense detail.  There are two 
> globes (one terrestrial and one celestial), a quadrant, a torquetum, a 
> polyhedral dial and a shepherd's dial and some others I don't know, all of 
> which are set in such a way as to tell some 'story' to the understanding 
> viewer.
> 
> Until now it has been almost impossible for a sundial-interested visitor to 
> the gallery to attempt to understand much of the detail - there just isn't 
> time - but now with this view you can. You can even see for yourself the four 
> place names marked on the terrestrial globe (one of which helped to identify 
> one of the depicted persons as Jean de Dinteville, the Seigneur of Polisy) 
> and you can even read the music and words in the open book and guess at the 
> date and time shown on the shepherd's dial..
> 
> It doesn't (I think) help with viewing the anamorphic skull as a skull - or 
> at least you still have to turn your monitor round to do so! - and I STILL 
> don't understand the object behind the shepherd's dial...  Anybody know what 
> that might be?
> 
> Patrick
> 
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