Hi Frans et al,
 
I think the device looks like a long-working-distance microscope, positioned to 
allow observation of the details of the flowers or the insects that land on 
them!
 
Regards,
 
John
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Dr J Davis
Flowton Dials

--- On Fri, 19/8/11, Frans W. Maes <f.w.m...@rug.nl> wrote:


From: Frans W. Maes <f.w.m...@rug.nl>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Question on a possible sundial.
To: "Sundial List" <sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de>, electr0magn...@msn.com
Date: Friday, 19 August, 2011, 20:19


Hi all,

Thanks to the increased attachment size I can post the illustrated question of 
Duncan Meyers to the list, together with my initial response. Any additional 
suggestions regarding the nature of this object?

Best regards,
Frans Maes

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Question on a possible sundial.
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:21 -0700
From: Duncan Meyers <electr0magn...@msn.com>
To: f.w.m...@rug.nl

Frans,

Yes, you are more than welcome to post it to the mailing list and see if anyone 
else knows or has an idea..  My thought when first seeing this was that it 
would allow light into the tube and focus the light to a point which would then 
move along a line and would track not only the time but also the date as well. 
Yes, the tube has lenses inside that has a small image when looking through it. 
Kinda like looking through the end of a telescope and you see an image but it 
is really small and far away.

I'm part of a solar spectrograph competition to design and build a spectrograph 
and was thinking about using this model as a setup design. So the light would 
pass through the tube and be reflected downward into the vertical tube where it 
would pass through a collimeter and then through the grating.

But, thank you for your help. I look forward to seeing what your members have 
to say.

Best regards,
Duncan Meyers
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-----Original message-----
From: "Frans W. Maes" <f.w.m...@rug.nl>
To: Duncan Meyers <electr0magn...@msn.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2011 03:14:40 PDT
Subject: Re: Question on a possible sundial.

Hello Duncan,

It looks sundialish, but I don't think it is. If the tube is pointing at 
Polaris, it could have been part of a pole-style. But no ring with hour 
numbers, parallel to the equator, is present. Neither are there numbers on the 
rim of the flower bowl.

In the old days a type of sundial was known as "noon cannon" (see attachment 
for an example). A lens focused the sun's rays on a small, loaded cannon at 
noon, which then fired. So the neighbourhood could synchronize their watches 
and clocks. But then it is necessary to adjust the tilt of the lens holder to 
the sun's noon altitude on that day. And I don't see such an adjustment here.

What else could it have been? Does the tube have lenses at either end? Can the 
tube slide in the tube holder? If it is a monocular, one could perhaps observe 
enlarged flowers with insects on them or so. Or if the sun passes the point in 
the sky at which the tube is aiming (which would occur twice a year) a hot spot 
could set a piece of wood, paper or so on fire, or heat a cup of water.

That reminds me of a sculpture with a similar function, the 'Solar Orbit 
Transit Station'. See my website, www.fransmaes.nl/sundials and choose "Related 
objects" in the main menu. It is the first thumbnail.

Does this make any sense? If you like, I could post your question to the 
Sundial Mailing list, a forum of sundialists around the world.

Best regards,
Frans Maes


On 17-8-2011 20:20, Duncan Meyers wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I looked through your site and other sites and can't seem to figure
out what this is. Do you know if it is an exotic sundial that uses a
point of light instead of a shadow?
> 
> Duncan Meyers
> 503-933-6097
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