One more thing: In the U.S., the time-zone boundaries usually or at least
nearly always follow state boundaries.  That results in some extremes that
result in people being out unnecessarily in the dark.  So, instead, the
time-zone boundaries should be meridians. The intended time-zone
middle-meridians would be the middle-meridians, and the boundaries would be
the meridians 7.5 degrees east and west of that middle-meridian.

In the U.S., the middle-meridians should and would be 75, 90, 105, and 120
west longitude.

Europe, too, would surely benefit from meridians instead of
country-boundaries as time-zone boundaries.

Oh, and just one more thing:

Why would you want a sundial to tell clock-time???

If you want clock-time, put up a clock.

Sundials give a time that a clock doesn't give:  Local True Solar Time.
LTST is of interest.   ...aesthetic and practical. More meaningful in every
way, in fact, other than business and other interpersonal affairs, for
which Standard-Time is convenient.

Of course LTST is also called French Houirs.

If you want a sundial to tell other kinds of time, Babylonian hours &/or
Co-Italian hours are of interest, for their own sake, in addition to having
practical relevance.

Michael Ossipoff

Michael Ossipoff



On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:21 AM Douglas Bateman via sundial <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> Subject: Re: EU backs ending Daylight Saving Time
> Steve,
>
> Looking at the report, the headline should surely read EU backs
> *permanent* daylight saving time.
>
> The term daylight saving could then be dropped.
>
> During these debates and arguments many forget to ask the question (as
> Brian hints) as to why DST and Double DST was introduced in WW1 and WW2.
>
> Regards, Doug
>
> On 31 Aug 2018, at 14:37, Steve Lelievre <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>
> One of the annoying parts of sundial design is having to decide whether to
> accommodate Daylight Savings Time or not, so I'm pleased to hear that the
> EU Commission is proposing to do away with it. See BBC's report at
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45366390
>
> I hope they go through with it, and non-EU countries follow their lead.
>
> In Canada we even have the ridiculous situation that some locales use DST
> and some do not, even within the same province. Madness!
>
> Steve
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