I don't think anyone of us on this list would deny that statelessness in a client is ideal. to me it is the definition of a thin client. However, the ability to be functional at the mainstream things doable on the windows desktop is also key to offer an alternative to a pc on every desk.
On 6/20/06, Craig Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd still like to see someone mention a true thin client that can do a
decent job at video. Citrix and Wyse have tricks that stream the bits
down to Media player on embedded XP. Nothing is rendered on the server,
and guess what, you have to manage that OS.
(and there are plenty of companies with software outhere to help starting with SMS and then al the others)
The more the client does the fatter it becomes. I know Ivar mentioned
that the Sun Ray hardware is capable of so much more, but that so much
more requires so much more local code.
The power required to render full screen on the server and the bandwidth
to send it down isn't anything that would be cost effective today. And
what's your full screen? 640x480 or 1920x1200? Huge difference in the
amount of horsepower required to shoot those pixels down the screen.
Understood, but Assume each SunRay has a 100Mb/s link to a dedicated switch port, With a big enough server farm paid for by all my TCO savings, shouldn't it work?
Scanning and printing: Scanning works fine from both Solaris and Linux
if you have a scanner that supports SANE. Printing works well not only
with the 'Nixes but also from Windows.
Regarding scanning and USB PDA's up to windows, neither of those are in
the RDP spec.
Citrix has this today for Win32 based Citrix clients (buton ActivSync, no palm) which means you are already running a PC to run
the Citrix client. Linux support for TWAIN and ActiveSync is supposed
to be forth coming from Citrix. So these are not Sun Ray issues per se,
you'd have the same exact problems on a WinCE or Linux based thin
client, or from any RDP connection.
I agree that that they are not SunRay issues per se. They are howver issues that need to be solved inorder to offer an (attractive) alternative to the fat desktop. My original question was designed to try to find out which "thinish" client offers the best alternative to
Windows.I was hoping that Sun would have a paper on this. With the advent of Vista and the requirments for 1GB of ram and a 1GHZ processor that now would be the time to have this ready.
Sun Ray has upstream and downstream audio. In fact it was the very
first thin client to have upstream audio, not to mention VoIP grade
upstream audio. RDP does not support upstream audio, but I guess that's
the Sun Ray's fault. Citrix came out with upstream audio in PS3 (Called
Digital Dictation), but I've not heard of any VoIP Softphone vendors who
are raving about it.
Thanks for the clarifications on sound.
Can SRSS be configured to use Active Directory as the authentication database?
Thin Clients wrote:
> Thanks for all the interesting answers. There appear to be asome
> extra complexity vs a citirx/wyse only solution, but perhaps it pays
> off in the easier management.
>
> The things that still worry me are:
> - video - for instructional computer based learning etc
> - scanning and printing. I suppose that ethernet attached ones might
> work here. Any one know of any and how to make them work with the SunRay
> - usb to atleast sync outlook/phone lists.
> - sound input/output
>
>
> (The reason why I asked about comparisons to the web browser world is
> the advent of things like the Nokia 770 and browsers on phones. Some
> percentage of the user base will be travelling an will want to use
> these devices. (Significantly smaller than a tadpole). So I forsee a
> mixed environment.)
>
>
> From a service provider perspective, does anyone know of a provider
> using citirx or rdp? (gotopc?)
>
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