I am not running any CAM applications at all. Just straight into icewm at
login. Ok, so how do I prevent a windows manager from loading? Sorry but am
new to Solaris.

PS: Could we make a Solaris_x86 box as part of a failover group with our
v880?

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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Thanks for all the advice. Worked a
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Hmm so running in 1024x768 for example will help things along quite a bit.

You could always run in 800x600 to save even more ;-)

--
Leigh



Craig Bender wrote:
> How about no window manager.  Why use one at all if you are going full 
> screen windows?
>
> How big is the resolution of your screen?  1280x1024 will cause XSun 
> to consume about 28 MB, 1600x1200 roughly 36 MB.
>
> You should see usage like this for each cam user (remember under CAM, 
> Xsun runs as root so you have to factor that in)
>
>  PID USERNAME  SIZE   RSS STATE  PRI NICE      TIME  CPU PROCESS/NLWP
> 13001 utcu1    6056K 4800K sleep   59    0   0:00:07 0.0% rdesktop/1
> 12940 utcu1    1472K 1384K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% utstartkiosk/1
> 12962 utcu1    1360K 1264K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% WBTStart/1
> 13000 utcu1    2768K 2328K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% utaction/1
> 12939 utcu1    1472K 1376K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% bbstartd/1
> 12936 utcu1    1472K 1376K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% bbcontrol/1
> 12931 utcu1    1376K 1280K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% sh/1
>
> Which you can compare to this session with a windowing manager:
>
>
>  PID USERNAME  SIZE   RSS STATE  PRI NICE      TIME  CPU PROCESS/NLWP
> 10192 utcu0    1472K 1384K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% utstartkiosk/1
> 10290 utcu0    4736K 4192K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% ttsession/1
> 10288 utcu0      28M   24M sleep   59    0   0:00:07 0.0% dtwm/1
> 10214 utcu0    1360K 1264K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% WBTStart/1
> 10287 utcu0    6312K 5376K sleep   59    0   0:00:08 0.0% rdesktop/1
> 10191 utcu0    1472K 1376K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% bbstartd/1
> 10188 utcu0    1472K 1376K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% bbcontrol/1
> 10183 utcu0    1376K 1280K sleep   59    0   0:00:00 0.0% sh/1
> 10217 utcu0      28M   24M sleep   49    0   0:00:06 0.0% dtsession/1
>
>
> If you do do icewm, can you get us a prstat -u UID so we can see what 
> it's requirements.
>
>
>
> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>
>> You could probably go lighter still and use a very basic window 
>> manager if all you have is the Windows connector running full screen 
>> and no native apps. You could even remove the window manager 
>> altogether I guess.
>>
>> -- 
>> Leigh
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Lackey - US-SW Desktop Product Lead wrote:
>>> In the scenario below gnome doesn't load either...
>>>
>>> i was describing CAM mode on Solaris... If you're using icewm expect 
>>> the 90 mb number to be lower, bu the 60mb number will probably still 
>>> hold true.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> John Simovic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Forgot to mention that I have a generic user (only one) logging in 
>>>> under icewm. Then a script calls rdesktop to the windows terminal 
>>>> server. Gnome doesn't even load.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brad 
>>>> Lackey - US-SW Desktop Product Lead
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 October 2006 10:08 PM
>>>> *To:* SunRay-Users mailing list
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [SunRay-Users] Thanks for all the advice. Worked a 
>>>> treat.NOW.....
>>>>
>>>> The processors will likely be close to adequate, but memory is 
>>>> going to be your short fall...
>>>>
>>>> Each CAM user using uttsc will take about 90 mb of RAM....
>>>>
>>>> If we take your 4096 and subtract some (256) for system overhead 
>>>> and divide by 90 we get about 42 concurrent users.
>>>>
>>>> If you remove dtsession from your applications list you can save 
>>>> about 30 mb per user.
>>>>
>>>> (4096-256)/60 = 64 concurrent users
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not see why it should not cope just fine, I had a V240 with 
>>>> similar spec and had 30 or so users with lots of apps, lots of 
>>>> hungry Java development stuff (Eclipse etc) and there was room for 
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Leigh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Simovic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We have a v880 with 2 933 UltraSparc Processors and 4 gig RAM. This 
>>>> server
>>>> is only serving a login screen for the clients who immediately get 
>>>> a windows
>>>> session via rdp. Will this server cope with 70 clients just being 
>>>> redirected
>>>> to winbloze?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>>
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