Hmm, that's an interesting idea, though we would want to use NSCM sessions and 
run SSGD and SRSS on the same server. Is NSCM in the Linux version yet? And in 
SSGD we would have to use the classic webtop, right? Thanks for the info, I 
will definitely be saving this email for later reference!  -- Russ

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Cunningham
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 15:34
To: SunRay-Users mailing list
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Soft Ray client?

I've had a number of customers ask about this, and at least one customer 
considered it a bug because they couldn't hot desk between Sun Ray and SGD.

Some thoughts on this ..

If you run up against this, you could consider pushing the Sun Ray server as 
purely an access server, with SGD providing access to the application sessions.

For example, what I mean is ..
- configure Sun Rays for CAM mode
- publish just a browser with the home page set to SGD (i.e. no Sun Ray desktop 
available)
- user logs into SGD
- user starts sessions
- user can hot desk just using SGD


Some benefits of this..
- can secure access to devices onsite using Smart Cards and authentication
- eases up load on Sun Ray servers as there are no desktops running on it
- no data stored on Sun Ray servers, easy to remove/add new ones with minimum 
fuss (admittedly can be solved with shared backend storage for home dirs, etc).

If you configure SGD so no sessions run on that either, then both layers simply 
become access/service layers. This would make sizing these layers a lot easier 
as it's easier to size X number of CAM sessions and a browser/client  per user 
instead of a whole desktop on the Sun Ray servers and an unknown number of 
applications within that desktop session.

The one customer that considered this a bug hasn't brought up the subject since 
I described this scenario.

Curtis.

Remold Krol | Everett wrote:
In my opinion the combination with SSGD will be ideal. When SSGD can take over 
a SunRay session (a form of SoftRay) SSGD can handle the connection to Thick 
Clients.
In that manner it is also possible to continue working at home and when 
travelling (hotel, internet cafe) with one SunRay session.

- Remold Krol @ Everett.NL
At 21:57 22-5-2007, you wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:47:35 -0600, Paul Greidanus <[EMAIL 
>>>>> PROTECTED]><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

    > LeBar, Russell J wrote:
    >> Has anyone heard anything new on the Soft Ray client or is it a dead 
product? I guess SUN is pushing Tarantella instead? Thanks!
    >>
    >> -- Russ
    >>

    > I've heard nothing, but I keep pushing.. Tarantella won't do
    > what a softray client will do, so it's not really an appropriate
    > solution.  Vncserver on the Xnewt is the only thing close, but
    > it's not really ideal.


Theoretically, another big piece of this would be hotdesking between
dtus and thick clients.  In our case, I don't think this capability
would reduce dtu sales, but would sure add a *big* convenience factor!

-tom
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