The main problem of connecting from SunRay to SGD and let users use SGD at home is that you need to have a license for SunRay and a license SGD for all users. If you have a company with 500 users and only 25 or 50 of them may access their applications from home, then you still need to have 500 SGD licenses.

There is also an other option to share teh same desktop between SGD and SunRay, but you need to have the VMWare VDA Kit to let users connect to their own desktop from either the SGD or the SunRay server.

- Remold

At 01:51 23-5-2007, you wrote:
Actually .. I think having a smart card could be useful. If enabled, inside the company you can't use a DTU without one (i.e. disable all this CAM stuff for non smart card users), so then inside you can still do mobility with your card, bringing up the same browser and open SGD sessions from any DTU.

Then when you go home, you could skip the smart card, go direct to SGD.

Also, if it's a bigger deployment, try having SGD and Sun Ray on separate layers/servers. Then they just work independently, you're not exerting load or exposing your Sun Ray servers to the web, etc. For different sites you could have local SR servers providing services to local DTUs, and they connect back to central SGD servers, etc.

Curtis.


LeBar, Russell J wrote:
Hmm, that's an interesting idea, though we would want to use NSCM sessions and run SSGD and SRSS on the same server. Is NSCM in the Linux version yet? And in SSGD we would have to use the classic webtop, right? Thanks for the info, I will definitely be saving this email for later reference!  -- Russ


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Curtis Cunningham
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 15:34
To: SunRay-Users mailing list
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Soft Ray client?

I've had a number of customers ask about this, and at least one customer considered it a bug because they couldn't hot desk between Sun Ray and SGD.

Some thoughts on this ..

If you run up against this, you could consider pushing the Sun Ray server as purely an access server, with SGD providing access to the application sessions.

For example, what I mean is ..
- configure Sun Rays for CAM mode
- publish just a browser with the home page set to SGD (i.e. no Sun Ray desktop available)
- user logs into SGD
- user starts sessions
- user can hot desk just using SGD


Some benefits of this..
- can secure access to devices onsite using Smart Cards and authentication
- eases up load on Sun Ray servers as there are no desktops running on it
- no data stored on Sun Ray servers, easy to remove/add new ones with minimum fuss (admittedly can be solved with shared backend storage for home dirs, etc).

If you configure SGD so no sessions run on that either, then both layers simply become access/service layers. This would make sizing these layers a lot easier as it's easier to size X number of CAM sessions and a browser/client  per user instead of a whole desktop on the Sun Ray servers and an unknown number of applications within that desktop session.

The one customer that considered this a bug hasn't brought up the subject since I described this scenario.

Curtis.

Remold Krol | Everett wrote:
In my opinion the combination with SSGD will be ideal. When SSGD can take over a SunRay session (a form of SoftRay) SSGD can handle the connection to Thick Clients.
In that manner it is also possible to continue working at home and when travelling (hotel, internet cafe) with one SunRay session.

- Remold Krol @ Everett.NL
At 21:57 22-5-2007, you wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:47:35 -0600, Paul Greidanus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

    > LeBar, Russell J wrote:
    >> Has anyone heard anything new on the Soft Ray client or is it a dead product? I guess SUN is pushing Tarantella instead? Thanks!
    >>
    >> -- Russ
    >>

    > I've heard nothing, but I keep pushing.. Tarantella won't do
    > what a softray client will do, so it's not really an appropriate
    > solution.  Vncserver on the Xnewt is the only thing close, but
    > it's not really ideal.


Theoretically, another big piece of this would be hotdesking between
dtus and thick clients.  In our case, I don't think this capability
would reduce dtu sales, but would sure add a *big* convenience factor!

-tom
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