On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:42:14 +0100
Jakob Oestergaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Dear list, I have a question and a story.
> 
> First things first:
> 
> On Solaris 10 x86 using Xsun with SRSS, how do I adjust the keyboard
> repeat rate and the intial delay? I'd like 250ms initial delay and 40
> chars/sec or so. I've only been able to find references to accessx
> which can slow the keyboard down even further, kbd which can adjust
> the console keyboard and the -ar1 and -ar2 Xsun server options which
> would then be server-global if I hacked them into the global X server
> setup.
> 
> Is the only option to enable XKB?  If I do that, are there any
> downsides?

I think it is the only option, besides the -ar hack. One downside is in
the SRSS for Solaris release notes: it doesn't work well with the CDE 
desktop environment (i.e., I have no autorepeat at all under CDE). 

> 
> 
> Now, to the story:
> 
> I've run SRSS on 32-bit Kubuntu for a long time. Moving to bigger
> iron, I really wanted a 64-bit kernel. Since I don't want to mess
> with home-rolled kernels (been there done that) and since no Linux
> distro seems to have realized that a 64-bit kernel with a 32-bit
> userspace is very very useable, I needed to install 64-bit userspace.
> After spending *much* too much time on that, I ended up giving up
> when I realized the 32-bit PAM modules from SRSS wouldn't work with
> the 64-bit PAM in the distro.

64 bit kernel/32 bit userspace: the Debian guys have realized for some
months that this is useful and support it. Before this, I downloaded
the 64 bit kernel .deb file "by hand" and installed it via 
"dpkg --force-architecture".  I think this should work in Ubuntu, too.
You will need some small hacks to compile the SRSS modules.


> Next option was to run my 64-bit Kubuntu system with a KVM with a
> 32-bit OpenSuSE inside. Then, running SRSS on the guest system (which
> was even almost a supported platform!), making it do XDMCP to the
> host system. This turned out to be infeasible as well; there were
> many many keyboard mapping issues with OpenSUSE and SRSS, and the
> XDMCP part just never worked right - gdm cannot do what it needs to
> do, in order to do this cleanly, or I was unable to find out how.

I never tried this since I think you will lose USB- and audio-support 
(and mobile sessions?) this way.  
A "sun ray connector for unix"  would be great!

> 
> Either way, I ended up scrapping those ideas and simply installing a
> plain Solaris 10 x86 and a SRSS on top. What a great experience! This
> is by far the smoothest SRSS install I've ever been through, and I've
> been through a few - I guess I should have guessed that, since it's
> the first install on a supported OS ;)
> 
> This was very smooth; I'd definitely recommend SRSS on Solaris over
> Linux for this reason.  But read on...
> 
> Getting SRSS running was one thing. Getting a KDE desktop turned out
> to be quite another.
> 
> Sun ships KDE 3.4.3 which is *ancient* (and even without anti-aliased
> fonts!), JDS which is, well, not quite what we want (let's keep it at
> that) and CDE.
> 
> Blastwave has no updated KDE, neither has SunFreeware.com
> 
> I was absolutely shocked that there was no updated KDE available for
> Solaris. Does everyone really run JDS or uttsc?  I spent a few days
> getting KDE 3.5.9 compiled, but now it's up and running.

I made quite similar experiences with Solaris+Gnome/KDE. When you come 
from Debian, blastwave/sunfreeware is really, umm, let's say, surprising. 

Opensolaris sounds much better in this respect. It seems they try hard 
to integrate up-to-date open source software. But I hear suspiciously little
about Opensolaris+SRSS. Since, e.g., SRSS for Solaris uses dtlogin instead of 
gdm
and dtlogin is not part of Opensolaris, I expect there are some rough edges.
I also do not know if there is already a  continuous update procedure in 
opensolaris  
or if I have to reinstall everything from scratch every few months.
So I never tried it. 
Can anyone share his Opensolaris+SRSS experience on this list? This would be 
great!

Regards, Meik

-- 
Meik Hellmund
Mathematisches Institut, Uni Leipzig
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.math.uni-leipzig.de/~hellmund
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