On 8 July 2010 08:27, Wim Coekaerts <[email protected]> wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
> aside from the obvious issue with colormask (WIP) and yes it's clearly a big
> deal that is going to be addressed - what else is there that you'd want to
> see?

Better handling of video in native Linux sessions. It would be great
to demonstrate to customers that you can watch Youtube on a native
Linux session on a Sun Ray without jumpy video and out of sync audio.
Don't know how you guys would do this, but hey, you did it on Windows.

>
> Given that we have Oracle Enterprise Linux  (which btw is a -free- download
> and -free- use - it doesn't require support subscriptions if you don't want
> support nor does it require support subscriptions to just download) of
> course we are going to make sure that that's fully supported and on par with
> Solaris and make it easy to install/package etc...

CentOS is binary compatible with RHEL and is free in the same sense as
OEL. The problem with RHEL, CentOS, OEL have to do with the same
reasons people choose Ubuntu for the desktop. I have been using and
administering RedHat style systems for years and usually run them
exclusively on my servers. My workstation at home though runs Ubuntu.

>
> I have seen a number of folks running ubuntu but that by itself is quite a
> bit different in terms of packaging and quite frankly work/effort but I
> would like to understand what in particular attracts folks to using ubuntu
> for sun rays. is there anything that we are missing in OEL in particular,
> what is it that you are looking for that's not there ?

One example: you can't install Google Chrome on RHEL 5 as the LSB
version is too old. Versions of popular desktop applications like The
Gimp, Inkscape, OpenOffice, Evolution, Firefox, etc always lag well
behind. People generally would like to run the latest versions of
popular desktop software. The native Linux desktop session scenario is
quite different to VDI or kiosk mode deployments in this sense.

>
> also re ubuntu : there really are 2 ways to look at it, one is to use VDI
> and run ubuntu desktops with oracle vdi the other is the standard sun ray
> server install directly on ubuntu.  first one is there today , second one is
> just, as I said, a lot different than supporting rhel or oel and you can do
> if you hack your stuff together today.

Linux is great at really elegantly handling a multi-user scenario. VDI
just adds a layer of indirection and bloat that I like to avoid for
Linux sessions. As for jumping through hoops to make SRS work on
Ubuntu, well, it would be nice not to. Nothing worse than worrying
about how applying a patch or an upgrade might bring down the whole
system.

>
> virtualizing - is anyone running sun ray server virtualized ? would it help
> if we made full images available for download (would be for Oracle VM - btw
> also free download and use) that contained OEL and Sun Ray Server
> pre-installed and preconfigured for the standard setup ?

Would be handy for setting up quick demos. Truthfully thought, it's
easy enough to install on RHEL based systems. Now a fully functional
Ubuntu pre-installed VM... that would be nice, but I repeat myself.

>
> Wim
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BTW, Wim, it's really great to see you guys engaging with the
community in this way.


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Kind regards,

John Francis
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