> From: Howie S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:57:05 -0700
>
> Mine takes exactly 2 minutes & 35 seconds from the time I click the
> 'restart' button in XPostFacto, till the time the disk icons appear on
> the
> OS X desktop.
>
> Startup duration doesn't seem to be affected by processor speed as
> much as,
> perhaps, my slow internal SCSI bus, but 2:35 is a fairly long startup
> penalty. I'll bet those with IDE controllers are quicker.
>
> Just out of curiosity, anyone get much better times than that?
>
> -Howie
>
> S900- G3/333/1 mb cache, via XLR8 CarrierZif
> ����- overclocked to 360mhz
> ��������-using standard internal SCSI bus (no IDE controller)
> ������������-ATI Xclaim VR128 video (16 mb)
> ======================================
My Machine takes almost exactly 3 min to startup OSX 10.2. It is
perhaps 30 secs longer then on the 2 gb IBM SCSI drive I ran OSX on for
2 years or so. I expected it to be faster but it's not for a number of
reasons. My Sonnet ATA 66 PCI card and IDE drive are seen as SCSI by
OSX and I get a grey screen at startup that lasts 20 sec in OSX. It's
only 10 sec in OS 9.x. (the VST ATA PCI card is seen as IDE in OSX so
shouldn't have this issue but has PCI slot issues instead) The SCSI
drive didn't have this lag small as it is. OSX startup for me also has
another problem which OS 9 doesn't. This is thanks to AT&T broadband
service odd as that sounds. OSX looks for the Network IP address while
starting up. I used to be able to setup broadband by either putting in
the IP address or by using a DHCP Client ID number. AT&T now says to
leave this blank and it will be filled in by the network after the
machine starts up. Which it does. Apple says the fix for the machine
setting there with Networking initializing for long periods is to put
in an IP address or your DHCP Client address. You see the problem...it
takes 40-50 sec before it times out and continues loading. So be
it...somethings are out of our hands...
Startup isn't the only game though;-) OSX or OS9.x or anything is much
faster on the IDE drive. The on board 50 pin SCSI is limited to 10mb
sec and my old IBM and Seagate 2 gb drives top out at 6-7 mb sec. My
IDE drives top out at say 32 mb sec or so!!! Way faster in use then the
old creaky SCSI drives. I was surprised to see that the move to a
modern IDE drive did more to speed things up then did my first G3
upgrade! Now there are of course fast SCSI drives but you would need a
SCSI PCI card and the fast SCSI drives are way more money and smaller
in GB size then the IDE drives. You never get the full speed of your
IDE nor SCSI card. That is why in real world use and bench marking
tests, There is very little difference between the ATA/66,100 and 133
mhz cards. The ATA 100 drives just don't run much if any faster then
the ATA 66 drives did. ODD but true I've read the tests and tried them
myself.
So the answer is you may not see much better startup times but yes
they are much faster in use. Will S
UMAX J700 XLR8 carrier zif G3 500/1mb overclocked to 550mhz cache at
220 in OS9 275 in OSX Sonnet Tempo ATA/IDE 66 card
ATI Rage 128 Orion video (16mb)
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