On Monday, November 04, 2002 5:13 PM, Bailey quipped:

Actually, it can. sort of... It can delete files from the directory on 
subsequent writes to the disk. The file will still be there, you just 
can't access it (this is in iso9660 cd-rom xa mode). You can also 
rename things, etc..

-Ford

On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 12:21 PM, Aughenbaugh, W wrote:

> 'm not familiar with Mount Ranier SW, but Toast DOES NOT SUPPORT 
> deleting
> files from an RW CD in any case. That feature of UDF is not supported 
> on the
> Mac.


To which I respond,

Cute, but no cigar. The reason for deleting the files is to RECLAIM the
space.

Mark,

I will repeat that I have not looked at Mount Ranier. However, I have used
Adaptec DirectCD on a PC. It is less than wonderful. And it is s l o o o w.
The PC's clock speed doesn't help much either. It is roughly an hour to
format the CDRW disk. Then copying files takes a while. Deleting files also
takes a while. I'm not sure about the reclaimed space and how that is
re-allocated because frankly it isn't really worth the effort. Perhaps a
faster drive would help, and background burning would help, but what is
really the point?

You mentioned writing and multiple versions. It would seem to me that the
reason that you use CD in the first place is to preserve your variations. If
you delete them (assuming no other backup) from the CD, they are gone
forever. The little writing that I do convinces me that I can never recall
the exact style and phrasing when I try to recreate something that was lost
because of a crash or software glitch. CDR media is cheap (although MANAGING
a CD library is not) and even CDRW media is not that expensive, so why would
it be necessary to reclaim a portion of the media instead of having to
capability to revert or reclaim portions of an earlier version? If, when the
project is complete, you never want to seen it again, just TOSS the CDs.

On the speculative side (PURE SPECULATION), I believe that the reason (at
least on MacOS 9) that UDF is not fully implemented has to do with the Mac's
penchant for maintaining a dialog with mounted devices. I know that with CF
cards and FW drives, one MUST 'put away' (aka trash) a volume before
ejecting the media OR file and/or disk corruption WILL occur. With a FW hard
drive, it is possible to repower the device, but my experience has been that
CF cards must be reformatted to be used after this happens. Even CDs (that
cannot be corrupted) require this operation. PCs do not (yet) suffer from
this data/volume corruption, but even Win2K warns of this (improper
unmounting) when removable media (other than CD) is not 'ejected' properly.

On method, given background burning, would be to image the RW disk, erase
same, and reburn after reconfiguring the image. Granted, it's not like
having a large floppy, but it probably wouldn't be much slower.

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