> Steve Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:19:39 -0600 > Also there are reports of the Sapphire 32mb card having different > Video ram from sample to sample and different ram speeds. There have > been very few Sapphire 64mb card tested so far so no word on if it > also has this issue. This is believed to affect the flashing and also > the speed at which the card will run. Which of course is the reason > for different ROM files being developed. Oddly enough the more > expensive and faster ATI Mac Edition (not the 7000) runs at the slower > mhz speed but is still faster odd but true. It is possible the > Sapphire card is more like the Mac Edition then the 7000 not sure > yet.It would not have occurred to me to flash the card while using it. > I don't think that is usually recommended but what ever works! > > > I was using the 7500's built-in video. Right now, the only SuperMacs I > have are 500Cs. I have an S900 out on "loan." I don't think I had any > ATI drivers before unless the system installs them automatically. I > forgot to check. > > i was using the ATI 128 card and i needed to get rid of two extensions > which that card used in order to use the new card. "ATI Graphics > Access' from OS 9.1 kept it from even starting up all the way and the > "ROM update" extension for the older card also caused problems. > However please note the correct Drivers for the new card also has > extensions with the same names as the older versions causing problems. > Extension manager is a good way to look at extensions and see what > goes with what and version numbers and a easy way to turn thing off > and on until you get it right. When running OSX 10.2.4 everything > needed will already be installed. Will S > > > which set of drivers are you running, Will. Have you found it's made > any difference? Also, is there any way to tell what kind of memory I > have? I'd rather not remove the card, but will if that's the only way. > I think it was advertsized as having ddr. > > Steve
Well I installed the 210 driver package which I think is called "Radeon 210.sit " and it is the older package that I got before the Feb 24th "upgrade" Works super fast in OS 9.x scrolling is so fast I can't really read the bookmarks in my browser. I just looked at the ati extensions in the extensions manager control panel and turned off the ones which had been installed by OS 9.1 and kept the newer ones and all is well. I live in OSX 10.2.4 now days.OSX 10.2.4 has no need for the 210 drivers they will run and give you a worthless control panel but they are slower then the drivers in 10.2.4 So except for the testing the last few days I only boot into OS 9.x to save copies of my email in Eudora about once a week. I have "mail" in OSX set to leave email on server. Eudora downloads and removes from server in OS 9. I also need to boot into OS 9 to run utilities like Disk Warrior and Norton for Speed disk. It isn't currently possible to boot from CD's in OSX on an old World mac using XPFacto but version 3.0 may well change that. XPFacto 3.0 is expected to include CD booting and Firewire booting! It will be a while before this arrives but the alpha version already has it working. It only works with a few firewire cards at this point which is holding things up. Also Ryan of XPF is working under deadline at his real job so too busy to work on it. All ati and clone video cards that work with our machines use DDR Video ram. The issue is this ram comes in different speeds like 40,50& 60 usually marked on the chips on the card as -4, -5 ,-6 with the lower numbers being faster and the -6 chips needing to run at slower mhz speeds. So we are guessing the different RAM speeds on the Sapphire 32mb card is the reason different ROM flies are needed. We may in the future be able to tell which ROM file is needed by the RAM chips speed code on the card.Not really anything to worry about once you have the card running. There are some PCI ATI Video cards with SDR ram and these cards will not flash and run as Mac cards. I've only seen this on ATI cards. Sapphire cards with SDR ram all seem to be AGP slot cards and not PCI. So that is why I usually list the full name of the card to help make sure people get the correct ones. later Will S -- SuperMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | Service & Replacement Parts [EMAIL PROTECTED] | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> SuperMacs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/supermacs/list.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/supermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
