<quote who="David Deckert">
> Rob wrote:
>>If youuse the full ROM file, then you don't need to flash anything on
>> the Mac side.
>
> Yes, and I found this out too late. Everything I'd read made it sound as
> if it could be done with relative ease via either method.

You might want to try re-flashing the card with the full ROM file. The
whole reason for the full ROM file was to get around the problem that you
are describing.

>>As for the PC not wanting to boot up. I had the problem on my Dell (on
>> board video, and also has an ATI Mach64 card). The way I got around it,
>> (I know this will sound wierd) was by disabling the hard drives in the
>>BIOS and then unplugging them from the machine.
>
> Why not just unplug and disconnect the HD, or is that not good enough on
> a PC? Or does a foreign video card screw up POST enough so that even a
> good HD now looks foreign too, and getting rid of said drive "fixes" it?
> Notice that at this point I've given up trying to make logical sense of
> this.

At least on the older PCs (mine was a circa '97 Dell 90MHz Pentium, not
even MMX!) if you simply unplug the drive, it'll confuse the BIOS and the
machine will not fully boot. You'll get an error message stating that
there is a Hard Drive Error (or something to that effect). So you must
tell the machine that there is no HD connected, OTOH if you were to turn
off the BIOS setting but no pull the HD plug, then it will still error out
because there is this piece of hardware that it doesn't know what to do
with. PCs just are as bright as a Mac, then again, they don't have 4MB of
ROM to boot with. I think this whole HD w/ new vid card is more of a
timing issue than anything else. I think at one point I actually had the
plug the monitor into the Radeon card, then after about 10 seconds, move
it to the other card. If you left it plugged in to the original card, the
machine wouldn't start up, you obviously couldn't leave it connected the
Radeon. I don't know why that worked. Once again....stupid PC....:P


> 2nd question is, did the on board video still not work, or did you just
> use the other video card out of some other convenience? Just trying to
> squint at something to expect for my next go 'round at this.

On my particular PC, the onboard video would automatically disable itself
when the machine sensed another card. So I had to use a second card in
order to see what I was doing.

I've often considered offering my services in this department, but I never
could find the time. Kind of sad on my part too, I could've used the extra
money to I can get a G3 upgrade for my last machine.  ;)

-Rob

P.S. I have a copy of the ROM and ROM flasher that I used, maybe you'd
like to try it. I won't post the URL here, just in case, but let me know
and I'll give it to you. If anyone needs the files, just ask, I've had it
sitting on my server ever since this news broke months ago.




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