on 24.06.2003 15:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> First of all,  how do I set it up so that I don't have to hold down the shift
> key at boot up.

You'll need to remove the conflicting file(s) either to a folder in the
System Folder named "Extensions (Disabled)", "Control Panels (Disabled)",
etc., or from the System Folder completely. There is a built in control
panel called "Extensions Manager" through which you can do this, or you can
manually drag the files, or you can use a third party solution, such as
"Conflict Catcher." Using the standard utilities might be less convenient,
but it will give you a better understanding of how the Mac OS System Folder
is organized.


> Up until now I have
> been strictly x86, so I am not even sure what booting without extensions
> means. Will it make my cd-rom inaccessible?

Mac OS extensions are roughly equivalent to Windows *.dll files, the one key
difference that is particularly germaine being that, under Mac OS, they
often launch processes that run in the System heap, or memory partition in
RAM, at startup. Booting Mac OS with "Extensions Disabled" is roughly
equivalent to a "Safe Boot" into Windows.

The other difference is that most of what is handled by the Windows Registry
is taken care of automatically in Mac OS. This is what makes it possible to
go and move many--but certainly not all--files without crippling the system.
It also makes for a bit of frustration for those who are accustomed to
dealing with a single point of reference that the Registry provides.

And yes, this could leave your CD-ROM drive inaccessible. One solution is to
startup with a bootable CD-ROM in the tray. During the boot sequence, all
local devices are polled and any drivers on those devices are loaded into
the System heap and remain there until shutdown. This usually works whether
the drive has an Apple ROM or not. Another is to hold the space bar down at
startup which launches the Extension Manager and set the extension set to
"Mac OS � Base." This will only work with drives that have an Apple ROM.
Getting a decent CD reader/burner is arguably a higher priority than the
hard drive.
 
> 
> Next, the computer I purchased did not come with software.
<snip>
> Where is the best place
> to get software? I see OS 9.2 with OSX jaguar on ebay all the time selling for
> about $80.00, but I was not sure if this is a good deal or not. I know my
> computer will require some work before osX can be installed (processor etc..)
> but I figured If I could get 9.2 and OSX at once, I can always upgrade later.
> 

I suggest you get a copy of OS 9.1 first for several reasons.

A bootable CD-ROM is indispensible for emergencies and maintenance. It is
possible to boot from a floppy with an older version of the OS, but you
won't be able to do much with it, since even the most basic utilities and
drivers are much too large to fit on it.

Later versions of Mac OS are not only unsupported, but require a bit of
hacking to run on this motherboard. While there are utilities available that
can do this for you, you might want to "flight test" the machine under well
supported software for a while to identify any other problems before going
to more adventurous lands.

Built in, there is a nifty, but unintentional, way to clone a drive using
only standard Apple utilities. At this path "drive_name:System
Folder:Application Support:Software Update:" there is a file called "Apple
Software Restore". Drag the icon which appears on the desktop of the drive
you wish to clone and drop it on the icon of this file. A dialog will
display that allows you to set the target drive, among other things. As long
as the target is the same size or larger, you're good to go.

HTH,

paul
-- 
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