Lester wrote:
>Yes we are passionate about our macs, because in so many ways they
>reflect the excellence of intellectual passion that drives those of us
>who seek to be the absolute best that we can be.

Yeah, that's me.

Jerry said:
>Mac vs. PC is an old and tired discussion, resurrected every time
>somebody juices the hardware another notch.

Yeah, it's hard to say one is better than the other when what's
important to one person has no importance to another. It comes then down
to preference, which will always trump all. 

Your car may go faster, be nicer looking or ride better than mine, but
if I don't care than you no longer have a "better" car. If I can't agree
that those attributes are meaningful to me it doesn't matter what those
attributes are. 

>As long as we're willing to accept Apple's go-for-the-throat pricing --
>and reward them for it -- we'll never see more reasonable costs on Mac
>boxes.

I disagree with the notion that Apple uses its propritary nature to
"stick it" to their customers. I'd like to think I'm smarter than that
and that I'm able to recognize on my own what I like and why. If a
comparably priced PC with better performance is a solution I don't
prefer, I don't agree with the opinion that I'm being dealt an unfair
hand by Apple. I value what I get from Macs, and it has never been
mainly about speed for me. 

Would I prefer Macs be as fast as PCs at the same price point? Sure! Am
I willing to take a relative performance hit in return for what I
perceive to be a better user experience? You bet, and I don't begrudge
Apple's higher margins either, as some sort of thing they are clearly
taking from me instead of doing me a "favor" or otherwise reducing
margins because I "deserve" it. If it costs too much, there's no
purchase. Simple as that.

Jeff said:
> Linux costs.

Crisso wrote:
>Huh?

I think what Jeff means is time. Yes, the installers and "wizards" are
getting better, but they aren't there yet. Anyway, the only way to get
it for free (besides bundled) is to typically download it and maybe
burn a disk, big roadblocks for non-geeks. And God help them if they
ever need to edit a config file --- even Windows saves them from that.

Jerry said:
>The world is about to change and "disposable" desktop computers are
>about to be a part of it. 

Oh, we've already made it there! Come by the computer recycler where I
volunteer if you want to see mounds of disposable computers. The $499
often found today for a basic full setup is plenty cheap for someone who
wants an applicance already, and that comes with Windows XP. 

I say acknowledge the low end to Windows, which took it away years ago
already. Geeks love Linux, and rightly so, but at best the popular GUIs
are a Windows or some other OS copy. That isn't shooting for better,
just copying. I don't see a big future in that; you're always waiting
for somebody else to show you how to do it better.

-David

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