"the reason i posted was because i am tired of mac hailing
the new thing at the lowest price and advertising the best specs and
selling the lowest price"

What would you have them do??? State that they dont have the fastest Mac in 
their ads, and state they arent nearly as fast as PC's??? Every vendor states 
their product is the fastest, whats your gripe with Apple???

"but there are pci cards that can take advantage of a higher bus speed   
limiting the 2 thousand dollar model to 33 mhz is ridiculous"

You mean why put in the CURRENT standard implementation of PCI?? Why are they 
using the same PCI as most other vendors?? Hmm, maybe price as to make a sub 
$2000 base model G5??? If you are someone who is going to utilize that speed, 
get a higher end G5, its that simple. You arent going to find PCI-X in 
anything PC sub $3000.

"The reason i pointed out the ram issue seems to have eluded everyone
here  for the most part  before now you could buy the cheaper mac and
upgrade it yourself to the highest spec  this is not true for the
cheapest G5 as the motherboard itself doesn't support the advanced
features heralded by the expensive mac"

No, it hasnt eluded anyone here but yourself. No one here is complaining 
about the low end Mac, because no offense to anyone here, its LOW END MAC. They 
still use Supermac's for crying out loud, including me as Im writing this on it 
right now, and you are hear harping about the G5?? What are you thinking?? So 
the low end Mac G5 doesnt have as fast ram as trhe top end model, Apple isnt 
hiding this fact, whats your point??

"The Pentium 4 at 2 ghz never was advertised to be the end all and run
nearly as fast the the 3Ghz model"

Neither was the Mac low end G5 model said to be as fast as the 2 Ghz high end 
model. Again, whats your argument based on here???

"And i don't think the listmon should get so personal with users  if i am
attacking someone  kick me off  but if i am stating facts and straighten
up some unclear facts that are going around   what can you really say
besides "Oh  i dont' like that   leave the list" "

Well, you arent stating any facts whatsoever, thats the whole point. You came 
in here on your high horse spewing lies and misinformation as the gospel, and 
we are all wrong, and you are the only one right, and we are blind followers 
of JObs, while you are just a lemming. Whatever dude.

"Well  its been a run  i have enjoyed getting info for my mac's off this
list  but it is the most unfriendly list to ppl not solely running off
the mac platform i have ever been on"

Actually, I havent seen anyone insult you or name call you anything besides a 
troll, which is how you are making yourself out to be. No one has seen you 
post on the email list before, and then you go around bashing the Mac, on a Mac 
email list. Who's fault is that?? Did you expect anything less?? I actually 
thought everyone was very restraining against you, and quite polite.



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