on 2/21/04 8:03 PM, Gary Gorbet at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Please explain why anyone would want to use both of these?
>> While CPU Director does work with our machines it seems to mostly be
>> for the G3 800 & 900 FX cpu upgrades which let you set the CPU and
>> bus settings on the fly with software. This feature only works with
>> the FX G3 upgrades so most people can't use this feature. It also
>> doesn't show temperature nor let you turn off the motherboard L2
>> cache. Cache Control X does both and it seems a bad idea to run two
>> Cache softwares at the same time.  later Will S
>> 
> I'll be glad to explain, Will. When I first got Panther up and
> running on my daughter's S900, Cache Control X had incorrect settings
> for Backside cache speed. It would not let me change it and
> performance was slow. I downloaded CPU Director which *did* let me
> change cache speed. Once I had made that change, Cache Control X
> would let me change settings again. The handiness of CPU Director in
> this regard was reported by more than one other XPF user. YMMV. I
> haven't used CPU Director since, but I definitely had to have it
> initially. I prefer Cache Control X, but of course I don't go about
> resetting anything any more. I occasionally bring it up to reassure
> myself that cache settings are correct and to check temperature.
> - Gary G.

Another advantage of CPU Director is that there is an OS9 version in the
package, which lets me disable speculative accesses. Even NewerTech's Gauge
Pro control panel, which came with the card, would not let me change that.

After reading up on the PowerLogix site, I suspect that a few quirks I've
had in the past have been linked to that being enabled. In particular they
mentioned Retrospect, which I had problems with whenever it was set to
verify data backups. I will do a test to see if disabling speculative
accesses fixes the problem.

Meanwhile, I uninstalled L2CacheConfig and am running Cache Control X now in
OSX. I believe that the NewerTech card disables the motherboard cache on
it's own, but at least CC X verifies that it's not present (along with the
other features).

A couple of new findings to share:

1) It turns out my Initio Miles 9100UW card can be flashed to work with OSX
... the only drawback is that it needs to be flashed again to work in OS9.
Apparently this is an issue only with the Beige G3s and earlier machines.

Jeff W., if you're reading this, I seem to recall you mentioned some time
ago about cards that could only be flashed a limited number of times. Is
this a possibility for the Miles card?

2) I found out that the Jaguar install disks do not install Apple DVD Player
on our machines. Searching the 'net, found a somewhat detailed explanation
on extracting it from the archive (using OpenUp) and managed to find Apple
DVD Player 3.2 and install it. Unfortunately, Apple DVD Player 3.2 will not
recognize external DVD drives (mine is a FW). So, back to the 'net and I
managed to hunt down a patch for v3.2 ... voila, OS 10.2.8 can now run Apple
DVD Player with the external burner!

I read that Panther installs Apple DVD Player v4, which does support
external drives, but I'm not goin' there just yet (well, at least until Ryan
Rempel makes it so)!

-- 
Gregg


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