Will, thanks for doing the testing on iDVD.

I went ahead anyway and ordered the ZIF from MacGurus on Sunday.  Just a
quick note for anybody outside the US who is contemplating ordering this
upgrade.  I ordered from MacGurus as they had the international option in
their ordering form.  A day later I got a message saying that it would be
shipped directly from Daystar through a MacGurus order form.  The reason for
mentioning this- well I couldn't see an option for international shipping on
the Daystar webpage and the shipping cost Daystar would normally apply if
not for the MacGurus order form would be $15 more than from MacGurus.

Long and short of it then, if placing an international order go through
MacGurus- cheaper shipping and it is directly shipped from Daystar anyway.

Cheers, Pete.

on 14/7/04 5:30, SuperMacs List at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok just for the quest of the answer I installed iDVD 4.0 yesterday
> evening. I'd previously tried iDVD 3.x and gave up on it. Was able to
> install 3.x version but wouldn't open with the G3 even using a hack I'd
> found.
> iDVD 4 i'd heard would install and open on any machine with a G4 CPU.
> I'd also read you could even use it to make a project which you could
> later transfer to a machine that could burn it. Ok install went good
> opens with message something to the effect of this machine doesn't seem
> to have a usable DVD for burning. Seem to work fine and I've heard you
> can save an iDVD project and perhaps use Toast 6 to burn the project
> with. I have a Pioneer A05/105 DVD RW drive. It is the same as many
> Apple Superdrives but I have it in a firewire box as the Acard ATA 66
> PCI card I have will let me use it as a reader the burning part gives
> hardware errors. In the firewire box it works fine with iTunes, the
> built into OSX disk burner and Toast. Apple system profiler sees it as
> an Apple SuperDrive!
> Off I go to:
> http://www.kentidwell.com/idvd4/#faq_02
> Download a very small file follow directions carefully and iDVD 4
> (updated to 4.0.1 by Software update) now lets me chose an external DVD
> burner to  burn an iDVD project to DVD or make a disk image file which
> can be burned with Toast 6!
> Most any DVD burner that works with  itunes and or disk burner should
> work. This includes the many Pioneer DVD burners and a few other brands
> Apple has used as Superdrives over the last few years and perhaps some
> others.
> I already know iMovie works as do the other iLife apps. Both iDVD and
> iMovie I believe have the limits of needing either DV or QT (movie)
> formated files to work with. QT Pro can convert them put it always took
> longer tehn I wanted to wait for with the G3 it should be faster with
> the G4 to do conversions but have not yet tried.
> In fairness to OWC I should also let people know that their G4 500-600
> MHz Zif upgrade is now listed as being the same 7410 LE nitro chip as
> the Daystar/XLR8 upgrade. It is often hard to know where facts end and
> marketing  takes over an runs over the facts and specs . Daystar claims
> theirs runs cooler and makes better use of Altivec in OSX then what
> others are selling. It is true that the Daystar version can be bought
> from Daystar or the fine folks at macgurus.com for $199.00 and comes
> with the very nice Daystar/XlR8 cache software which cuts startup times
> by nearly half in OSX and the OWC sells for $229.00 with no software.
> OWC also has the G4 450-533 Mhz Zif for $149.00 which is a great price.
> It is the older chip design so may run a bit warmer and unlike the
> other chip it would be running over clocked and not sure what  speed it
> would be happy running in our machines.
> I've had to down clock my setup to 531 MHz CPU @ 59 MHz bus with L2
> cache running at 265.5 MHz still not too shabby. Reason for this OS
> 9.2.2 booted with scrambled screen to my surprise at the 540/60 bus
> speed which was fine in OSX both Jaguar and Panther. I don't seem to be
> able to write a short reply ;-) later Will S


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