In <news:[email protected]>,
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj <[email protected]> wrote:

> Another oddity is that the Xref: header line for the above article is
> Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com mozilla.support.seamonkey:37378
> As I wrote. My SM 1.1.14 reports 37227 articles in the group.

$ date -u
Wed Mar  4 21:30:26 UTC 2009

$ telnet news.mozilla.org 119
Trying 216.196.97.169...
Connected to news.mozilla.giganews.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
 --> 200 news.mozilla.org
 <-- group mozilla.support.seamonkey
 --> 211 37385 2 37386 mozilla.support.seamonkey
 <-- quit
 --> 205 goodbye

  211 - the NNTP response code for "newsgroup selected ok"
37385 - an estimate of the number of articles in the group
    2 - the article number of the oldest post
37386 - the article number of the youngest post

That's all the info that's available from the server.  Servers don't do
much to make sure the estimate is right;  if you've been downloading
messages from the start, your 37227 is probably much closer to correct.

Some of the article numbers in the range 2 - 37386 aren't associated
with posts.  A server hiccup can cause an empty slot.  Also, an empty
slot is created whenever a post is cancelled, and cancellations
probably account for most of them.

Two messages to this group have been cancelled under the cancellation
policy <http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html>, some spam
has been cancelled, and for a while there was a troll who had all his
posts cancelled as soon as he made them.

> So how many articles are there in this newsgroup on the
> news.mozilla.org server?

The only way to know is to download and count them all.  Have fun.  ;)

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