Leonidas Jones <[email protected]> put forth: >The Composer component is probably the lowest priority for the volunteer > >Take a look at KompoZer: > >http://www.kompozer.net/ > >Does it do what you want it to do? > >If so, that is said to be the basis for SM Composer as of 2.1, if all >goes well.
Hopefully no, and here are the humble reasons: 1. Kompozer as it exists right now, is just a glorified and too-limited NVU. It may well be overkill for SM 2.01 and maybe even SM 2.1, as NVU can't begin to hold a candle to the really fair-to-good HTML editors. SM might need too much to compete with them, too. SM 2 users need something "nice" as far as HTML editing and quick composition, and perhaps Composer 2.01 in SM 2 is the better answer. 2. We don't need a small, underpowered HTML editor (essentially a modified NVU) IN SM 2, but yes, SM 2.01 needs a slight bit more than what the initial SM 2 Composer has. Again, the Preview links not working is one of THE please-fix-sooner needs for SM 2.01 3. We DO need a SM 2.01... because it's going to take too long to do SM 2.1. And do we really want to wait that long ?? Even the one or two SM 2 volunteer programmers (God bless them, one and both or all!) themselves...would they want to wait that long? More needed is to get the few nagging SM 2.0 things fixed in a 2.01 and get 2.01 out to the users. THEN turn efforts to a SM 2.1 perhaps in 1ST quarter 2010. IF NVU can add a little more "power" and automated features, then yes, it might make it into SM 2.1, and be a fair contender for a low-end HTML editor with some pretty good muscles, I will grant it that potential. But not at the expense of "ignoring" a needed SM 2.01, one with the Composer Preview links optioned to make them globally active or not. Joe ------ message trail ------ >Subject: Re: Follow-up, SM2 Composer Preview mode not activating links >Message: 8 > >JR WG wrote: >> Follow-up... >> >> RE: SM2 Composer Preview mode not activating links, thus not allowing them >> to be clicked on to test and/or cause a browser to be automatically opened >> to the link. >> >> >> I. SM2 and Composer Introduction in Workshops >> >> Well, after two Workshops (we give quite a few), I introduced SM2 to a total >> of 42 users of both fairly neophyte and, we can safely say, intermediate and >> advanced users. >> >> To a one, well, with one "wavering", all stated that SM2 Composer Preview >> mode not activating links is either a "programming error" or a "bug". >> >> I politely explained how links were expected to be used and tested in SM2 >> Composer, and received a resounding series of replies that boiled down to: >> >> 1. Who would want to do all that work, just to test a link? >> 2. None of the other HTML editors does it that way, why change it now ? >> 3. There has to be something wrong in Composer, no matter what the >> explanation. >> 4. Any Windows, Mac, and Linux editors and tools seen always activate the >> links in their respective "Preview" modes. Ditto for the now old Windows >> Outlook and Outlook Express Preview modes. >> >> I humbly agree with the above, maybe all four of the most heard responses. >> >> >> II. The Acid Test >> >> So, in light of the above, we as a group used three or four common HTML >> editors and one dedicated web-design tool, and compared the workload, steps, >> intuitiveness and time it took to do simple "link work" in those tools >> versus SM 2 Composer NOT having links activated in Preview mode. >> >> Frankly, SM 2 Composer took far more steps to achieve the same results, and >> that's a sin. The extra steps and work that not having links active in >> Preview is simply not acceptable nor needed to be done that way. >> >> ALL the other editors and tools activate links in their respective Preview >> modes, and that activity has long been considered proper and correct >> activity or option, for a great many years. >> >> SM2 Composer Preview mode not activating links is NOT correct, and should be >> considered an oversight if not a programmer's bug in SM Composer 2.0...and >> fixed as soon as prudently possible in a 2.01, or 2.1, providing that a 2.1 >> would not be too long in forthcoming. >> >> Joe > >The Composer component is probably the lowest priority for the volunteer > >Take a look at KompoZer: > >http://www.kompozer.net/ > >Does it do what you want it to do? > >If so, that is said to be the basis for SM Coposer as of 2.1, if all >goes well. > >Lee _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
