Bill Davidsen wrote:
Like many people who don't quite understand the NNTP protocol and equate
it to mail or web or mailing list or something they thought up, you are
confusing DELETE (move to trash or just erase) with CANCEL (send NNTP
CANCEL message, attempt to remove this from every server everywhere).
Oddly, people delete mail from their mailbox and don't expect all other
cc recipients will lose their copy. That's the way the news reader
should work, I don't want to see this headers in the header list any
more, I'm not interested. If the message is downloaded, get rid of it.
Just like mail.
SeaMonkey can take a delete rule in a message filter and not get excited
because it's not my message, why can't news work right? The conceptual
problem is old, whoever wrote the key bindings bound delete to mean
cancel, k to mean throw away this thread, and no obvious way to just
throw the message away. I would love to have news work as mail, and add
some additional command to actually attempt to sent the CANCEL.
News does "work right." The fundamental difference between news and mail
is that news messages do not belong to you (except of course your own
posts). So they are not deleted when you download them (POP3 model), and
you have no right to delete them on the server (IMAP model). What you
/can/ do is hide them (e.g. by killing the thread or marking them as
read), and that's why this group's 11,434 messages look to me like 26.
Unless you're a total idiot who constantly posts stupid $#!+ (and I
don't think you are), chances are you really don't need to /delete/ all
your messages, just the occasional misfire. And a filter isn't the right
tool for that, it takes wetware.
On the other hand, I would find it convenient to be able to plonk
certain writers (or should I say "wrongers"?) without having to sift
through a hundred messages or so every day for their names...
--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
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