»Q« wrote:
In<news:[email protected]>,
Daniel<[email protected]>  wrote:

In my SM 2.0.2, when looking at this group (and, I guess, other
groups as well), the header area of messages has a line called
"References" which lets you click on the reference number to go back
one, two, or several levels at once.

In some of the threads here, the number of levels can get large, e.g.
the thread called "Goodbye Seamonkey" gets close to thirty levels in
some branches.

However the reference number does not increase beyond 21, i.e. the
22nd msg has refs 1 to 21, the 23rd msg has refs 1 to 21, the 24th
has......

Is there some setting that limits the reference string to 1 to 21??
Can it be changed to allow 2 to 22, 3 to 23, 43 to 63, etc to be
displayed??

When the References header becomes large enough, some clients start
removing some of the message-ids from it, but what you describe should
never happen.  The 23rd message in a branch should at least have the
mid of the OP and the mid of its parent (the 22nd message).  Some of
the mids in between may be dropped.

Why ever drop any mids?  A line of a message sent via NNTP can't be more
than 1000 characters (998 plus the CR/LF).  To stay within that limit,
clients that put the entire References header on one line have to throw
away some mids once there are too many of them.

If some have been dropped, there's no way to get to them from the
current message -- you'd have to go back up the thread to a post that
still has them in its References header.

There is a better solution, header "folding", which allows a header to
span multiple lines.  Until TB/SM implement that, they're going to have
to keep throwing away mids when References gets too big.

Example of folding:
<http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=126603122100>

SM/TB actually have a bug that prevents them from handling folded
headers correctly -- when they unfold the headers, they leave a lot of
whitespace that shouldn't be there.  Example:
<http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=126603147200>.  (At least one
other client's author has had to update his code to deal with those bad
headers SM/TB sends.)


Q, in the browser window, after a days browsing, you could go to the Back Buttons Drop Down and, at a hop, go back up to ten or a dozen pages, and then go back another ten or a dozen pages, and then go back....well, I'm sure you get my point.

On those few occasions when a thread goes on and on, a similar set up would be o.j.... if I'm 46 messages deep in a thread, maybe across the top SM could show "40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45" and then when I select message 40, across it's top it could show "30, 31, 32, ....39, 40", etc, so I could go all the way back in several steps.

As I have my SM set up as "View, Sort, Threaded", I can just as easily click up the thread in the messages pane, but for others that may be set up unthreaded, having this means of going back, and forward, could be useful.

Daniel
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