Rufus wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
To summarize the two options:
* Use one that KaiRo already submitted, which is/was partially
implemented and a few vocally opposed.
* DO NOT CHANGE A THING ABOUT HOW IT WAS IN SM 1.1

Choice 2 is woefully not going to happen, sorry. especially as there
was
no explanation on why the old UI is/was better than anything else.

There was no explanation on why the old UI was bad, either. KaiRo
decided to change it because of his own opinion only, and now for some
unexplained reason it looks like nobody except me has the balls to put
the old UI back, which was fine.

There have been plenty of explanations as to why the old UI was better,
but most developers don't seem to read support groups, especially
mozillaZine.

-clearly accessible text buttons for all actions which meant that every
action was only a click away
-full URL to remote file available
-clear, organized grid-like design

_Doesn't your explanation above give credence to my belief that_:

Most developers of software go about software composition, in two
different ways.

1)For pay (commercial):
They develop according what the company Officers, BOD, and Investors
want.

2) For open source (such as Mozilla):
They develop to impress themselves and other developers.

And in neither scenario, does the end user figure very little into the
equation.

(They can't think like end users, in either position - now if I were a
user what features do I want the most. Users are beneath them kings
and surfs)

Note I said *most*, not *all*.


The best coders - and spec writers - think like users, and from a user
standpoint, IMO. When they don't, trouble usually ensues...




Phillip and Rufus, I would think that *developers* are the _cream_ of *Users* as developers are able to use something, see that the program they use has deficiencies (as they see it) and develop the program to overcome these deficiencies.

Now, just because you and I don't think these "deficiencies" are "deficiencies" doesn't really matter, and if we don't see these improvements as useful, that's our problem, not the developers!!

IMHO, anyway! No offense meant to anyone!

Cross post and follow-up to moz.gen (I hop!)

Daniel
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