On 17.10.2010 13:06, Beverly Howard wrote: --- Original Message ---
> > My response to the message in question was not related to the thread, > but it was posted in the thread because it related to a message therein. Post as a new topic altogether to lessen any confusion. Most everyone replying thinks it was part of the thread in question, just a subject change. > The body indicated the specific poster I was asking the question of. the > public post opened the response to others who might have information on > my question Post a new topic, no confusion there. > Subjects are NOT related to message threading... unless of course for > those who think subjects relate to threading and attempt to sort posts > by subject > > The newsreader in subject of this newsgroup (seamonkey) has _zero_ need > for quoting other that short quotes to identify the specifics of a > specific response. Users that mark as read and return to the thread later rely on effective quoting of what has preceded. Forums are different in this respect. This isn't a forum. > I find it interesting that the vocal objectors to this point here are > comfortable spending far more time, energy and anger in an attempt to > ossify a practice that has not been necessary for years rather than > learning and using the potential of this software, then introducing that > to others and, ultimately, making all posts much easier to read and follow. No anger, just trying to maintain chronological order and relevance to the topic posted so that others reading can maintain the same order, etc. and better support. There are a lot more readers than posters. > Even google groups has understood the negative aspects of nntp quoting > and taken steps to automatically remove them unless the user asks for > them... and their threads meet the information needs of your demands. Google Groups doesn't automatically remove quotes but rather gives the option to include a quote. And that's where most of the "rub" occurs since users posting via Google Groups miss the option. >>> Like I preach .. QUOTE !!!! << > > Since I'm not a member of your religion, I'll save you the minimal time > that would have been needed to add me to your kill list and leave. I have no intention of adding you to a kill list, ridiculous assumption. > You obviously feel you have the right to impose your rules on users who > don't think and work as you do. By contrast, where I have strong > feelings about using tolerance of patience in support forums, I don't > feel I have the right to impose those requirements on other users. I don't impose any rules, there are no rules, only guidelines: http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html We're here for the user that needs help and we do whatever it takes to make the experience useful and rewarding for everyone involved. > Intolerance of any kind in any support environment is a major hindrance > to finding and providing help... I've been participating in support > environments since the single user, 300 baud dial up computers in > someone's bedroom in 1983 when there was a specific need for quoting but > would have never been tolerated in the barf quantities of quoting used > here, but, you are so vocal in your demands that I am sure you have a > longer support history than I. Going against the grain and constantly rebuking guidelines to satisfy one's own ideas is quite a bit more intolerant and hindering to providing useful support to everyone participating as well as those lurking. > Now, almost thirty years later it's amazing that the few nntp support > forums remaining now seem to be dominated by rigid users making archaic > demands to post using requirements that software improvements over those > decades have removed the need to use. imho, it's not surprising that > nntp support forums are disappearing. Yah, the Model-T is quite slow and archaic but it gets there. ;-) -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
