On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 19.05.2011 18:03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>   --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19.05.2011 15:56, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>
>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>>
>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since a prefetched page(s) is/are put to cache, I don't know if
>>>>>> there is any indication that those pages are the ones
>>>>>> "prefetched".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And .. I think that this prefetch function is only workable as
>>>>>> intended with a slow dialup type connection. My main website
>>>>>> with over 800 pages is quickly accessed to any page from any page
>>>>>> quite quickly. I don't really think I could tell the difference
>>>>>> with/without prefetch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like to watch videos online, and even with a broadband
>>>>> connection (about 25 MB/min or 1500 kBps), they can sometimes take
>>>>> awhile to load (probably due to slow/busy servers). For example, if
>>>>> my 36-minute program is broken into three 12-minute chunks, I
>>>>> routinely open three tabs, and launch all three chunks, then
>>>>> quickly pause the second and third ones, allowing them to load
>>>>> without playing. I view the first one, and by the time I'm done,
>>>>> the second is ready to go. Automatic prefetching could come in
>>>>> handy here, especially since the website links the second and third
>>>>> chunks to the first and I have bandwidth to burn.
>>>>
>>>> Prefetch does nothing the first time you access the videos. And I
>>>> don't think that's the purpose of prefetching anyway. Prefetch as I
>>>> understand it is for pages with multiple links referencing other
>>>> pages on the same site,
>>>
>>> ... which is exactly the case I'm describing. The page that embeds part
>>> 1 of the vid has a link to part 2, and I could watch all of part 1 and
>>> then click the link, or else I could right-click the link and say "open
>>> in new tab." The second option is the one I choose -- I'm doing manual
>>> prefetching, so that when I'm finished with part 1, part 2 is loaded and
>>> ready to go. Some of the sites I visit even recommend this buffering
>>> technique to avoid choppiness when a server can't keep up.
>>>
>>>> e.g., the prefetch link in the header of the index page would
>>>> reflect<link rel="prefetch" ..>.
>>>
>>> ... and that's the answer to the OP's question: look in the source code
>>> for<link rel="prefetch" ...>. If it has such a link, it's set up for
>>> prefetching; if not, it's not.
> 
> Has anyone seen or written such source code?  This is the most logical
> response,
> and it presumably creates the desired result of making the remainder of
> the site
> faster to access.
> 
>> You're not actually prefetching by definition,
> 
> No. Getting data before it is needed IS "prefetching."
> e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch
> 
>> just loading in another
>> tab but accomplishing 'basically' the same thing.
> 
> No. it is not another "tab".
> e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch
> 
> 

In order to "fetch" something it has to be retrieved from somewhere in
the local system. Prefetching in Windows fetches it's data from
/Windows/prefetch.

Firefox, SeaMonkey, etc. fetches it's data from cache. And that is the
basis of my point simply because if you cache web sites, etc. it's the
same as prefetching it when it's retrieved. I can't think offhand of
prefetching any faster than from cache - memory or from disk.

-- 
*Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion*
www.ufaq.org
Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird
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