On 27.05.2011 18:11, Rick Merrill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote:
>>
>>   --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>> On 19.05.2011 18:03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    --- Original Message ---
>>>>
>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19.05.2011 15:56, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since a prefetched page(s) is/are put to cache, I don't know if
>>>>>>>> there is any indication that those pages are the ones
>>>>>>>> "prefetched".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And .. I think that this prefetch function is only workable as
>>>>>>>> intended with a slow dialup type connection. My main website
>>>>>>>> with over 800 pages is quickly accessed to any page from any page
>>>>>>>> quite quickly. I don't really think I could tell the difference
>>>>>>>> with/without prefetch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like to watch videos online, and even with a broadband
>>>>>>> connection (about 25 MB/min or 1500 kBps), they can sometimes take
>>>>>>> awhile to load (probably due to slow/busy servers). For example, if
>>>>>>> my 36-minute program is broken into three 12-minute chunks, I
>>>>>>> routinely open three tabs, and launch all three chunks, then
>>>>>>> quickly pause the second and third ones, allowing them to load
>>>>>>> without playing. I view the first one, and by the time I'm done,
>>>>>>> the second is ready to go. Automatic prefetching could come in
>>>>>>> handy here, especially since the website links the second and third
>>>>>>> chunks to the first and I have bandwidth to burn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prefetch does nothing the first time you access the videos. And I
>>>>>> don't think that's the purpose of prefetching anyway. Prefetch as I
>>>>>> understand it is for pages with multiple links referencing other
>>>>>> pages on the same site,
>>>>>
>>>>> ... which is exactly the case I'm describing. The page that embeds
>>>>> part
>>>>> 1 of the vid has a link to part 2, and I could watch all of part 1 and
>>>>> then click the link, or else I could right-click the link and say
>>>>> "open
>>>>> in new tab." The second option is the one I choose -- I'm doing manual
>>>>> prefetching, so that when I'm finished with part 1, part 2 is
>>>>> loaded and
>>>>> ready to go. Some of the sites I visit even recommend this buffering
>>>>> technique to avoid choppiness when a server can't keep up.
>>>>>
>>>>>> e.g., the prefetch link in the header of the index page would
>>>>>> reflect<link rel="prefetch" ..>.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... and that's the answer to the OP's question: look in the source
>>>>> code
>>>>> for<link rel="prefetch" ...>. If it has such a link, it's set up for
>>>>> prefetching; if not, it's not.
>>>
>>> Has anyone seen or written such source code?  This is the most logical
>>> response,
>>> and it presumably creates the desired result of making the remainder of
>>> the site
>>> faster to access.
>>>
>>>> You're not actually prefetching by definition,
>>>
>>> No. Getting data before it is needed IS "prefetching."
>>> e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch
>>>
>>>> just loading in another
>>>> tab but accomplishing 'basically' the same thing.
>>>
>>> No. it is not another "tab".
>>> e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch
>>>
>>>
>> I can't think offhand of
>> prefetching any faster than from cache - memory or from disk.
> 
> wE HAVE agreed that prefetch fill cache. But that is not always what you
> want.
> Nevertheless, if you are browsing a site, that site will *appear* to the
> user to be fast because of the pre-cached data.
> 

Unless there is some other area where prefetched data is stored, it
comes from cache as far as I know. And if your connection speed is high
speed (HSI) then cached data is basically useless. My cache has been
zero sized for years.


-- 
*Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion*
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Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird
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