Bill Davidsen wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Rufus wrote:
No, I don't think *you* understand. Go to the Apple App store and do a
search on "browser" - you will find pages of iPad and iPhone browsers
that *directly* compete with Apples Safari browser...I may have even
found another one that I like better than Atomic...and I like Atomic
better than Safari.
To say that Apple "won't allow" competing software on the App store only
tells me that you haven't done much surfing on the App store. Go look.
I look, Apple still prohibits competive browsers. You must use the
WebKit browser or be removed.
We're back to the definition of "browser" vs what tech or code
underlying that "browser" is. When you say "browser" I think
"product"...I want and care about the *product*, not the tech or code.
Macro vs micro.
As a *user* I don't care a whit about the underlying code...there are
pages of fully functioning browsers on the App Store, and they all
compete - they all do something or another different from each other,
and/or have different user interfaces. I don't care one iota that they
are all WebKit based as long as I can find one (or more) that *does*
what I *want* it to do, and allows me to do it easily.
Put nuts and bolts aside - just think about accomplishing the *task*.
That's the POV I'm taking.
Note: when work started I suggested switching from Gecko to WebKit to
avoid some of the issues (yes, I'm aware that raises others). Robert
though I was trolling, but that was my honest opinion. Gecko does too
much and therefore changes too much. The other side of that is Gecko
does too much so you don't have to.
I'm on board with that too - everyone gets an opinion. I'm just trying
to separate out for myself which is what, and why.
I'm happy to let Robert make the call, I just don't think having the
rendering engine do the whole UI is a great idea unless you control it.
Clearly Mozilla at best treats Seamonkey as a 2nd class citizen in some
ways. robert felt a true split was not feasible, that's his call.
And that's ok by me too - as I've said, SM for iOS is "new business"
proposal, and the folks whom actually run the biz get to make the
decisions. Their decision is "no".
And now that I've heard some of the *actual* reasons for those decisions
I can see their true side of things. But at least some people actually
did some thinking, and that's never a bad thing.
--
- Rufus
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