Jens Hatlak wrote:
PhillipJones wrote:
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
On 9/16/2011 2:44 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
I am very disappointed. However, there is still hope : how would
you react to a proposal that the user preference
Edit / Preferences / Advanced / HTTP Networking /User Agent String /
Advertise Firefox compatibility
default to<unchecked> ?
I would be against it, we enabled it due to soo many (especially
popular) website being broken due to "bad" browser sniffing, that is
automatically fixed by enabling that.
I would be for it because the sites need to be fixed to sniff on the
word Gecko instead of FF or SM. If they are no then we don't need to be
visiting them. And they need to be told so. by the head of Mozilla by US
Mail letter not just an email.
Come on, that is a lost war. Once upon a time there was a menu item that
could be used to report UA-sniffing sites. Then finally someone at
Mozilla took a heart and told everyone who didn't know already that all
those reports were never processed. Subsequently the menu item was
removed. In reality, it's too easy to apply a quick fix (sniff for UAs
instead of features) and get to support, say, 80 percent of all clients.
The default should be to make it "just work", which I would estimate is
what the average user expects. Average users don't know about UAs and
don't care that the site is broken, they just blame SM for not working
"correctly", while all the other major browsers work. Until SM 2.1,
which introduced the new option, people reported such issues again and
again, and the answer was to fake the UA or install an extension. Since
then the support requests in that direction have pretty much ceased. I'm
with Justin here; the pref default should stay as-is.
SM is all about choice. It is your (everyone's) choice to change the
pref. But if you want to have the default changed, you need to provide
better arguments than your own use case.
Just my 2c...
Jens
Send the letter as an ultimatum, fix the sniffing issue and have it
sniff on Gecko not a particular product or we will not support your
websites and will recommend to our users not to support your websites.
--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com
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