NoOp:
>Hartmut Figge:

>Actually I forgot the link to the other screenshot as well:
>
><https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631242>

I have seen that in the bug.

>I think the screen shots may be important as they show: 1) that the
>layout is 'Wide View' (no idea if this makes a difference,

No difference here.

>but worth noting),

Yes.

 2) Both the email and newsgroup have multiple folders so when
>the inbox/newsgroup is selected (screenshot 631242) the 'Name' box is
>completely full (Qgiz to m.s.s.seamonkey ).

Took some time for me to understand what you meant with 'Name' box. It
is not visible here because i do not like tabs in MailNews. *g*

>As soon as I select 'm.s.s.seamonkey' the cursor jumps automatically to
>the message display/compose box (all white at this time).

When i select m.s.seamonkey with the trackball the cursor and the focus
remain on m.s.seamonkey in the folderpane. Never have seen another behavior.

When i press 'n' the focus jumps to a message in the threadpane which is
displayed in the messagepane. The cursor is still on the NG.

What do you mean with 'message display/compose box'? The messagepane?
The threadpane? After selecting m.s.seamonkey the threadpane is here
blank only if there are no unread messages. That is because i have
checked View->Messages->All and View->Threads->Threads with Unread.

Of course i normally select a NG only when it contains new messages. ;)

>The user then must move the cursor up to the 'Subject' box in order
>to select a subject header.

Difficult to understand. Normally the user would select a message by
clicking on it in the threadpane. This may be done e.g. below 'Subject'
or below 'From'. What is a 'Subject' box?

>It is at the seperator line between message window and 'Subject'
>window

The separator between the threadpane and the line with the column headers?

V pna urne zl fvfgre fvtu "Unir lbh nyjnlf gb or fb cvpxl? Jul qb lbh
abg haqrefgnaq jung nyy bgure haqrefgnaq jvgubhg qvssvphygl?" *t*

>that the cursor turns into a D&D when moving the cursor out of the
>Message window.

First moving the cursor to the threadpane, then leaving it? Why should a
user do this? It is not necessary to select a message.

Nevertheless, i have moved the cursor all over the screen without
getting a D&D cursor.

>So IMO, the screenshots help to setup the same scenario.

Hm. Definitions of some of your words would be useful. :-P

>> So the situation is that we both use the same SM on Linux, both with a
>> new profile with only a mail account and see different behavior. Hm.
>
>No. See above. I set up both an email account with multiple folders, and
>a newsgroup account with multiple subscribed newsgroups.

Well, then you should create another new profile and there only a single
mail account. No configuration otherwise. If you get no D&D cursor you
may populate the Inbox with some PMs.

>> The difference must be something on the OS. I am using Gentoo and have
>> never installed a desktop environment like Gnome, KDE, XFC etc. Using
>> one of these will result in daemons in the background.
>> 
>> How did you test icewm? On a fresh installation of Linux with *only*
>> icewm? A minimal installation?
>
>Well no Hartmut, I didn't start from a minimal installation. And no, I
>didn't install Gentoo to test, nor did I try on FreeBSD, Slackware, or
>Mageia (the distro Ricardo confirmed with). I _did_ try on Ubuntu 11.04,
>Ubuntu 12.04, Fedora 17, and openSUSE 12.1.
>
>Did you test with a full installation of any of those... :-)

Some month ago i tried several Live-DVDs of several distributions. They
install a network manager which assumes, that a DHCP-server exists. No
possibility  to insert the data for my ISP.

Installing rp-pppoe sometimes required an existing connection to the ISP
*g* and often conflicted with the network manager. Removing the network
manager was impossible without removing a lot of essential packages. Bah.

You have checked different distributions and i assume that each of those
installed a desktop manager. So you have in the background a lot of
running daemons which do not exist here.

Hartmut
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