Hi Hartmut,

On 06/08/2012 06:22 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> NoOp:
>>Hartmut Figge:
> 
>>Actually I forgot the link to the other screenshot as well:
>>
>><https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631242>
> 
> I have seen that in the bug.
> 
>>I think the screen shots may be important as they show: 1) that the
>>layout is 'Wide View' (no idea if this makes a difference,
> 
> No difference here.

So, prior to getting to that screen, you ensured that you were in :
https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631240
first. Right?

> 
>>but worth noting),
> 
> Yes.
> 
>  2) Both the email and newsgroup have multiple folders so when
>>the inbox/newsgroup is selected (screenshot 631242) the 'Name' box is
>>completely full (Qgiz to m.s.s.seamonkey ).
> 
> Took some time for me to understand what you meant with 'Name' box. It
> is not visible here because i do not like tabs in MailNews. *g*

Look at the screenshots - left side: 'Name'. That (to me) is very
obvious. Want a screenshot with a red circle aroung 'Name'? :-)

> 
>>As soon as I select 'm.s.s.seamonkey' the cursor jumps automatically to
>>the message display/compose box (all white at this time).
> 
> When i select m.s.seamonkey with the trackball the cursor and the focus
> remain on m.s.seamonkey in the folderpane. Never have seen another behavior.

So, prior to getting to that screen, you ensured that you were in :
https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631240
mode first. Right? If not, when you first open the mailnews window click
on 'news.mozilla.org' to get to that state.

> 
> When i press 'n' the focus jumps to a message in the threadpane which is
> displayed in the messagepane. The cursor is still on the NG.

Hartmut, this is a *Mouse* issue - focus eh?

> 
> What do you mean with 'message display/compose box'? The messagepane?
> The threadpane? After selecting m.s.seamonkey the threadpane is here

Where do you normaly view your message text and or enter text for
composition? The message pane/box that you are reading this in now is
just that.

> blank only if there are no unread messages. That is because i have
> checked View->Messages->All and View->Threads->Threads with Unread.
> 
> Of course i normally select a NG only when it contains new messages. ;)
> 
>>The user then must move the cursor up to the 'Subject' box in order
>>to select a subject header.
> 
> Difficult to understand. Normally the user would select a message by
> clicking on it in the threadpane. This may be done e.g. below 'Subject'
> or below 'From'. What is a 'Subject' box?

https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631242
"Subject"

> 
>>It is at the seperator line between message window and 'Subject'
>>window
> 
> The separator between the threadpane and the line with the column headers?

More screenshots?

> 
> V pna urne zl fvfgre fvtu "Unir lbh nyjnlf gb or fb cvpxl? Jul qb lbh
> abg haqrefgnaq jung nyy bgure haqrefgnaq jvgubhg qvssvphygl?" *t*
...

>>Well no Hartmut, I didn't start from a minimal installation. And no, I
>>didn't install Gentoo to test, nor did I try on FreeBSD, Slackware, or
>>Mageia (the distro Ricardo confirmed with). I _did_ try on Ubuntu 11.04,
>>Ubuntu 12.04, Fedora 17, and openSUSE 12.1.
>>
>>Did you test with a full installation of any of those... :-)
> 
> Some month ago i tried several Live-DVDs of several distributions. They
> install a network manager which assumes, that a DHCP-server exists. No
> possibility  to insert the data for my ISP.
> 
> Installing rp-pppoe sometimes required an existing connection to the ISP
> *g* and often conflicted with the network manager. Removing the network
> manager was impossible without removing a lot of essential packages. Bah.
> 
> You have checked different distributions and i assume that each of those
> installed a desktop manager. So you have in the background a lot of
> running daemons which do not exist here.

Thanks Hartmut for testing and attempting to assist. I always appreciate
your help. However in this situation I think that we've a lack of
communication in replicating the issue (most likely my fault for not
spending time with a step-by-step), and definitely an issue with the
last regarding linux distributions in testing.

I can certainly bring up _any_ mainstream distro on bare metal; but I'm
not about to do it to satisfy your 'test' environment. Now, I've
demonstrated the issue in several of _my_ environments. A 3rd party
(Ricardo) has graciously tested and replicated in his distro's
environment. You can either test in any of those envronments, or we'll
simply call it a draw & I'll thank you (again & seriously) for your
help, and leave it at that.

With Kind regards & thanks again for your efforts.

Gary

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