I use white on black for everything to avoid white or other light-colored backgrounds; not just SM. My daughter recoiled when she saw it, but it doesn't take much getting used to, and it's real easy on the eyes.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 89, Issue 34 Send support-seamonkey mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: NASA live tv feed (Geoff Welsh) 2. Re: NASA live tv feed (Ed) 3. Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke (Paul B. Gallagher) 4. Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete? (David E. Ross) 5. Minor crash after edit of preference in about:config (Richard Owlett) 6. Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete? (Chris Ilias) 7. Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke (PhillipJones) 8. Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke (Paul B. Gallagher) 9. Re: NASA live tv feed (Paul B. Gallagher) 10. Re: Old Eyes (Roger Fink) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 12:17:51 -1000 From: Geoff Welsh <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NASA live tv feed Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed PhillipJones wrote: > Paul wrote: >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> W3BNR wrote: >>>> Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but >>>> it's working >>>> in IE with VLC; >>>> >>>> http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/ >>>> >>>> >>> How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last >>> few years? They might support something like a recent plugin. >> >> Works great with SM1119. > works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions > Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about. I don't even know there is a VLC plug-in. GW ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 19:41:39 -0400 From: Ed <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NASA live tv feed Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 5/19/2013 6:17 PM Geoff Welsh submitted the following: > PhillipJones wrote: >> Paul wrote: >>> Bill Davidsen wrote: >>>> W3BNR wrote: >>>>> Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but >>>>> it's working >>>>> in IE with VLC; >>>>> >>>>> http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last >>>> few years? They might support something like a recent plugin. >>> >>> Works great with SM1119. >> works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions >> > > Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about. I don't even > know there is a VLC plug-in. > > GW vlc 2.0.6.0 plug-on works with SM. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 20:22:35 -0400 From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed PhillipJones wrote: > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >> PhillipJones wrote: >>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>>> William Greenwood wrote: >>>> >>>>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0) >>>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 >>>>> >>>>> Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a >>>>> ClassNotFoundException >>>>> error when attempting to access the following chart >>>>> >>>>> <http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX > >>>>> ... >>>> >>>> Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which >>>> is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it, >>>> you'll >>>> get your charts back. >>>> >>> >>> The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey. >> >> In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but >> the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do >> as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get >> SM to "lock up" is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound >> dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my >> full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open. >> >> I do agree the page is defective. >> >>> In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora >>> comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java >>> Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date. >> >> I don't get that, either. My Java is Version 7, Build 21 (build >> 1.7.0_21-b11), and everybody knows it. I last updated May 16. >> > when in SeaMonkey you can not switch pages , switch back to email It's > Frozen tight the only thing you can do is a Force quit. Mouse or track > pad pointer can move around but no controls work at all. You can't even > Quit SeaMonkey you have to do Command-Option-Esc. > Then you can mouse down to SeaMonkey and click to do a force quit. All > the other browsers the page partially comes up with the erro message > about Java not up-to-date. This may be your experience, but it's not mine, so please stop using the second-person pronoun and start using the first-person pronoun. As I said, /my/ experience is that everything works, on that page and elsewhere. I can switch windows and apps, clicks work, and so forth. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 18:30:39 -0700 From: "David E. Ross" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 5/18/13 9:44 AM, Ant wrote: > Hello. > > Do I really have to delete all at once or one by one? > > Thank you in advance. :) > If you do not already have it get PrefBar and install it. It's at <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/>. Then go to <http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#permissionsmenu> and install the Permissions Menu menulist. This allows you to get the old-style Cookies Manager from the PrefBar tool bar. It also allows you to get the old-style Popups Manager and Image Manager. Although I have never used the Installation Manager (so I'm not sure what it is), it also allows you to use the old-style of that. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at <http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html> to see. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 07:06:01 -0500 From: Richard Owlett <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Minor crash after edit of preference in about:config Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I am using SeaMonkey 2.17.1 on WinXP Pro SP3 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 Build identifier: 20130410205058 I have multiple profiles. Therefore when I launch SeaMonkey I see Profile manager. Problem: Every time I modify a setting in about:config the next launch of SeaMonkey with the same profile I get an error message saying it is already in use. I can usually successfully start by launching with a different profile, exiting, and restarting with desired profile. Occasionally reboot of Windows is necessary. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 13:36:25 -0400 From: Chris Ilias <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 2013-05-18 10:58 PM, Ant wrote: > On 5/18/2013 5:26 PM PT, Chris Ilias typed: > >>> Do I really have to delete all at once or one by one? >> >> Hold down the Ctrl key to keep the previous cookie selected as you >> select another one. > > Uh, it doesn't work. Same for shift key. I assume you were doing this in > SM v2.17.1's Tools -> Cookie Manager? Yup. Here's a screenshot just in case there's a detail we're missing. It's on Mac, but I doubt that it's different on Windows. <http://ilias.ca/screenshots/sm-mac-selectcookies.png> -- Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca> Newsgroup moderator ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 14:10:22 -0400 From: PhillipJones <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > William Greenwood wrote: > >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0) >> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 >> >> Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a ClassNotFoundException >> error when attempting to access the following chart >> >> <http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX > >> ... > > Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which > is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it, you'll > get your charts back. > The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey. In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:[email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 14:23:03 -0400 From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed PhillipJones wrote: > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >> William Greenwood wrote: >> >>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0) >>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 >>> >>> Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a ClassNotFoundException >>> error when attempting to access the following chart >>> >>> <http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX > >>> ... >> >> Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which >> is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it, you'll >> get your charts back. >> > > The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey. In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get SM to "lock up" is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open. I do agree the page is defective. > In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora > comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java > Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date. I don't get that, either. My Java is Version 7, Build 21 (build 1.7.0_21-b11), and everybody knows it. I last updated May 16. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 20:26:16 -0400 From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NASA live tv feed Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Geoff Welsh wrote: > PhillipJones wrote: >> Paul wrote: >>> Bill Davidsen wrote: >>>> W3BNR wrote: >>>>> Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but >>>>> it's working >>>>> in IE with VLC; >>>>> >>>>> http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last >>>> few years? They might support something like a recent plugin. >>> >>> Works great with SM1119. >> works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions >> > > Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about. I > don't even know there is a VLC plug-in. There is, and you can set it to handle *.flv, *.swf, and a variety of other video formats. VLC Web Plugin File: npvlc.dll Version: 2.0.6.0 VLC media player Web Plugin 2.0.6 -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 21:43:41 -0400 From: Roger Fink <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Old Eyes Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -------- Original Message -------- > Old is right! For a person with reactive glare problems caused by a > cataract, white on black eliminates the problem, especially when you're on > the one-eyed monster for long hours. Also, I don't understand why web > designers use light-colored fonts on white or light backgrounds. I have to > squint to see them. > Using Windows 7 I've made the "high contrast" change there and have been > doing everything in white on black for years. Learned that with Word > Perfect long ago. > One minor problem: Some website "submit"-type boxes may not show up on the > black background, so I simply stab around with the tab key to find them. > If I can't negotiate through a site easily, I switch to a white browser, > which I keep available for that purpose. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 20:18:59 -0400 > From: Bill Davidsen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Old Eyes > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> Ben09880 wrote: >> >>> For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text >>> easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to >>> be black, with all text white. >> Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black? >> I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read. >> > No, bright text on black screen is easier to read (for everyone, kids just > don't > notice). When the screen is bright the pupils shrink, think trying to see a > traffic signal when the sun is in your eyes. That's why there's a "backlit" > option on cameras. > >> White-on-black is common on garage band web sites... >> > I'm not sure that's relevant to the technical issues... I like green on > black > personally, that's also not relevant. As someone who has experienced this firsthand, I share your disdain of close contrast text/background websites. While I have nothing against garage bands, since Mozart is close by when things head south, white font on black background is pretty radical surgery. I'd opt for cataract surgery first, but until that happens consider overriding the website font with a font that overrides all webpage fonts, which Mozilla allows you to do. Tiresias PCfont Z was designed specifically to enhance readability on computer screens. It's freely available for download, and I find it excellent. > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey End of support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 89, Issue 34 ************************************************* _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
