Ed, et al,
I am taking a few minutes out of my current insanity - my friend was
buried yesterday, and I am left holding the whole bag of a 15-year
internet project, including a domain that was not transferred to me, as
we had planned ! - to reply to this, then I will return at another time.
Ed Mullen wrote:
Marisa Ciceran wrote:
Ed, et al,
Last Saturday, my sole working partner on our web site passed away
unexpectedly in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia! While I am in New York
and cannot attend his funeral today, I've had to stop everything else I
am doing and switched gears.
Marissa, condolences on your loss! Terribly sorry to hear this.
Thank you very much. It is a devastating feeling, especially since I
tried to make a visit to him possible over the last two months, all
aborted by other priorities, not knowing how close his end actually was.
I've gone back to my Introduction page where I had previsously replaced
the MIDI with a very similiar version of Pachelbel's Canon in MP3
(that's why I/we can now hear it OK) - expanded some text and dedicated
the page to him.
But, I will say that this latest round of <object> script gave me
renewed hope. On a quick first try using Seamonkey 2.19 and IE 8 alone,
there was no sound with either browser on your test page at
http://edmullen.net/mozilla/embed_test_midi.php. Both SM and IE asked
for authorization to "view" the script. Both browsers prompted me to get
the Quicktime plugin.
IE then revealed the control bar, but did nothing beyond that. SM,
instead, went the same route as it has many times before during this
exercise. It gave me the dialog box saying that the Quicktime plugin was
not installed (obviously, because it is already installed) and then
prompted me to install it manually. I check that option and it sent me
to that ol' familiar page at http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/
for the full program. I didn't bother downloading Quicktime again since
it already installed on my system (and working independently, too) -
same issue as before.
If it were me? I'd create a new clean profile in SeaMonkey.
Been there, done that many times since 1992. This last round a few days
ago, however, I wanted to see if just uninstalling/reinstalling SM and
creating new profile and moving the entire contents of the data folders
into it would work. I did this based on one of the earlier responses
where some did basically the same thing. Had it not worked so well, I
would have gone to your suggestion.
I'd then uninstall Quicktime entirely. Then download the full
program, the free one, not the "Pro" paid version. Then install it
(with all browsers closed.) Then run SM and access your site using
the new SM profile and see if that fixes the issue.
I've already uninstalled and reinstalled the full program, many times.
Same results. :-(
Since MP3 files work with no problems other than the requirement of a
visible control bar, when I am able to back on [sound] track, I will
eliminate all the active MIDI file references that I can find on our
website. I don't yet know if there is a way to do a global search on my
website on just the <embed> script. Is there?
Yes there is IF ...
I don't recall your exact situation. Do you develop the site locally
on your PC?
Yes with FrontPage, but uploaded via FTP with Cute Pro.
With an exact copy of all the files that make up the site?
Obviously, no. :-(
If so, any good text editor (I use EditPad Pro) can open all the HTML
or PHP etc. files that are the pages for your site and do a global
find and replace.
All 6,000-10,000 of them at once? Yipes, no go! Any other way?
It's easy and fast. Make the changes and FTP them up to the server.
I do this periodically for my sites. Works great.
FYI, I went to the URL you supplied
http://www.istrianet.org/istria/index.html
and music played without issue in my SeaMonkey.
That's because it is now an MP3 sound file.
So, something is up with your install of Quicktime and SeaMonkey.
I agree.
Just be aware, and I think someone else said this up-thread, YOU can't
control how music works when I view your site in my browser(s). I
decide that by the settings on my systems(s). I may have my systems
set to never play music online. And you can't really know that or do
anything about it.
I know.
Think about it. I'm sitting here listening to music on my PC in my
headphones while brosing the Internet. I do NOT want any Web site
tossing any sounds in my ears to interrupt my music listening. So I
prevent that. If I see a page that has enough visually enticing
material that makes me want to listen, I will make the choice to pause
MY music and allow the site's sounds to play. It's a design issue.
And one that may annoy possible visitors to your site.
I know, fully understand and essentially agree with your points here.
However, our is site is a very specific theme that is not much visited
by casual visitors and there are other factors - it is a culture heavily
dependent on a music tradition.
You don't have to read through this lengthy explanation:
The majority of people who search out our website are "old timers" like
me - Refugees from WWII (the kids of then, I mean) or their children.
The introduction page has unrelated but calming canon music, whereas the
others have music relevant to their page. I've come to the conclusion
during this long exercise, that it is a good idea to force the control
bars to be visible to give people like you (and many others,
occasionally me, too) the option to turn the music off on our pages.
You've already been to the Tartini page with his world-famous sonata
(still undergoing revisions, and the music is already moved elsewhere),
but there are others that have very well-known and relevant music on
them - for example, besides Tartini, there's one on the biography of
popular singer Sergio Endrigo, a famous folk song on the introduction
page to our musical performers section, and, on actress Alida Valli's
page, the zither music from her film "The Third Man". I am going to
modify and/or tone down the sound on those pages, but not remove them
entirely.
A final question: when I resume this topic, shall I start a new thread
or continue this one?
My preference would be to reply to this thread.
Will do. "See you anon", as my dear friend who just passed away would
say. Thanks again to everyone for your comments and suggestions.
Marisa
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