Ray_Net wrote:
Daniel wrote, On 04/08/2013 12:14:
Ray_Net wrote:
Daniel wrote, On 03/08/2013 13:23:
Ray_Net wrote:
hawker wrote, On 02/08/2013 21:07:
On 8/2/2013 3:03 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
hawker wrote:
On 8/2/2013 2:39 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
hawker wrote:
On 8/2/2013 1:44 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
hawker wrote:
I keep getting complaints from those who use Outlook that
when I
cut and
paste from MS Word all they get is Greek letters and/or
gibberish with
MS font inserts and such. I'm only cutting and pasting
standard
text.
It looks fine for all other mail clients. Any ideas what
causes
this or
if there is something I can do about it? Dumping on Outlook is
not an
answer. Folks are going to use it, no matter what we think. If
it looks
fine in SM it should look fine in Outlook.
In Word, you're NEVER cutting and pasting just standard text!
Have you tried stripping out the MSjunk by first pasting your
text
into Wordpad or Notepad, then copying it again from there?
Yep that "fixes" it but then I loose all formatting.
Interesting that when I copy/past into Seamonkey it looks fine in
Seamonkey, G-Mail, My Android phone, and others but does not look
correct in Outlook.
Perhaps an Outlook support group could provide a solid workaround
for
this problem?
Are we going to play the pass the blame game now?
I don't have outlook, I don't use outlook, but I recognize the
majority
of the business world does - right or wrong it is the reality. We
can't
pawn this off as "outlook is broken" it is what folks use.
Seamonkey
should play nicely with it, weather we think it is broken,
compliant or
not. It is similar to the way folks get their hackles up on the
"this
website looks fine in everything but Mozilla X" - Mozilla X group
"the
website is broken tell them to fix it, I'm not taking
responsibility" -
OP "But it works fine in everything else"
I don't understand your rant. You have a problem converting data
from
one MS product to another MS product -- and you're upset that
someone
suggests you consult MS experts for assistance?
No I have a problem that the way Seamonkey takes clipboard data from
an MS product does not work with all e-mail clients and that Seamonky
WYSIWYG is not working correctly under the hood. I'm sure if I went
from Word to Outlook directly it would work fine. It is Seamonkey
that
seems to mangle it. This is a Seamonkey issue not MS. My guess is it
is a Clipboard parsing problem in Seamonkey.
Don't expect a solution in SM - the developper think they are the
best.
(if they follow the W3C rules, every other program will be able to
read
it correctly, or perhaps a rule is broken :-) )
Don't expecte a solution in word nor in outlook - microsoft
developpers
will say that passing thru SM have killed the clipboard data.
Did you notice, above, the OP wrote .... "It looks fine for all other
mail clients."
So it works for MS Word to SM to Chrome, for MS Word to SM to Opera,
etc, but doesn't work for MS Word to SM to MS Outlook... so we *must*
blame SM .... *NOT*
So what ? Will his problem be corrected ?
SM is not breaking this situation, SM is not making the problem so get
MS to fix their situation!!
And ....MS will say ....."If you use Word-Copy and Outlook-Paste, then
send the mail, All will be ok, It's SM that kills the Clipboard data."
If you look at it from MS's perspective, as Word as a do-all text
processor for documents, text, and HTML, then it makes some sense. Not
a lot, but /some/.
Assuming (as Word does) that you /might/ be composing an HTML doc, when
you highlight, hit Copy, Word assumes you want to also copy all the
underlying code along with the text. Okay, in our discussion here, we
do NOT want ANY of the underlying code. Still, for users who don't know
any better and who use Word to make HTML files this makes "some" sense.
Of course, in the real world (people who actually know what the hell
they're doing) it makes no sense at all.
I'm not certain of the underlying code and functions in SeaMonkey but I
suspect that SM is doing what it probably should: Pasting what's on the
Windows clipboard (put there by Word) ... INCLUDING all the crap that MS
Word includes.
The not-so-elegant answer is to do what's been suggested up-thread:
Copy from Word, paste into a plain-text editor (Notepad etc.),
highlight, copy, then paste into SM.
Arguing about who's right or wrong doesn't solve the issue. This does.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Why do people point to their wrist when asking for the time, but not to
their crotch when they ask where the toilet is?
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