Trane Francks wrote:
On 11/10/13 11:13 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
WaltS wrote:
I did change the size by changing the two pixel parameters with
"Constrain" checked. Maintains the image's aspect ratio.
Sounds like the user used an image editor. After that I'm not sure
what they did.
In my experience resizing images with Composer, which admittedly is
limited to outgoing emails, width or height or both can be modified as I
please, but if I specify a percentage for one and delete the other,
Composer restores the original value in pixels for the "deleted"
parameter. Thus, I can't specify
<img src="1indy.jpg" height="25%">
because Composer substitutes
<img src="1indy.jpg" height="25%" width="660px">
I've tried checking the "Constrain" box, but it won't toggle (clicks
have no effect), so I can't say what difference it would make.
One more reason to learn how to write HTML instead of relying on tools
which screw with the code imperfectly.
There is NO WYSIWYG HTML editor that creates code that will validate all
of the time. None.
If you're trying to create Web pages, learn HTML and CSS.
And stop complaining that imperfect WYSIWYG tools like Composer don't
work properly: They never will.
Nice rant. Plenty of people wrote plenty of websites with Composer that
validated just fine. Me included.
Interesting assertion. Can you give a link of a site you created with
Mozilla's Composer that passes the W3C's Validator?
Here's a file just created by Composer and run through the W3C Validator:
http://edmullen.net/temp/test.html
All I did was:
- run Composer
- type some text
- format some text
- run it against the Validator.
I agree that knowing at least basic
HTML and CSS is important for getting the most out of these tools, but
there's no reason that one shouldn't complain about bugs that have
existed for years and will likely never be fixed.
But everyone (I think) agrees that Composer hasn't been worked on in
years and will not ever be. Oh, sure, there are spin-offs that purport
to address this but, frankly, none of them does, or will ever, in my
estimation, produce the holy grail: A tuly valid WYSIWYG W3C-valid
generator of Web pages.
Been doing this a long time and I've never seen it, not Dreamweaver
(lovely name, totally false assumption) nor anything else.
Or, just use one of these tools, toss your Web page up on the 'net and
don't come back here hollering about people complaining that your site
fails in some way. It's because you just don't get it.
Nice 'tude, bro. I bet you're loads of fun at parties.
Actually, I am according to most reports. And I'm not your "bro."
Composer (and all of its ancestors) was an interesting idea that never
worked and, I doubt, ever will.
Composer and its ilk worked well enough for basic Web 1.0 development
Jesus! "Web 1.0"??? What decade are you locked into?
and began stumbling once anything beyond basic stuff started happening.
It has its share of bugs, yes, but loads of money has been spent on the
'interesting idea' of WYSIWYG HTML editors. For decades. That Composer
has problems is not proof that WYSIWYG editors are all doomed to fail.
That's just not a logical conclusion.
Making money is an indicator of success? Good grief! People who don't
know any better will spend lots of money on idiotic products that don't
work ... until the get smart enoudh to realize the the products don't
work. What does that prove?
Show me one example of a WYSIWYG HTML editor that consistently produces
validated code and the argument is over. Seriously. I'd be happy to
have you show me an example. I doubt you can. And I'm pretty sure, if
you do some testing, you can't.
Create whatever you like and run it through:
http://validator.w3.org/
Composer and its various spins offs, while valiant efforts, are not in
the running.
Look, it's simple. Create a page with a tool like I did. Put some
styling ... larger font size etc. Give the page a DOCTYPE that makes
sense, not "Transitional" like Composer uses. Run it through the
Validator. I mean, that is the ultimate cop-out: Transitional? Jesus!
How 1990's.
Then let's compare.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Very funny Scotty - now beam down my clothes.
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