On 10/11/2014 00:29, GenealogyPro wrote: > I am not certain how to title this support request because however I do so > in other forums, I invariably am recommended the very programs I stipulate, > with the reasons why, I had already tried and rejected. > > I work with multiple PCs and am in need of an email client which will > first an foremost, run on each of them, regardless of OS. I have been using > Netscape 4.61 because, first I bought the program on CD so am not dependent > on the download being where I can find it, and second, it continues to > allow me to drag and drop the program and its associated files not just > between computers, but even operating systems without the necessity of > having to reconfigure the program, but roughly two years ago, my ISP made > changes to its web-mail client that prevent my being able to send email > composed in Netscape, though I can still download. I had similar problems > even with downloading, but with the assistance of the support staff at my > ISP, I was able to make the necessary configuration changes, but not this > time.
Well, first let's define a few terms. You say you need something that works "regardless of OS." I don't think Netscape 4.61 could be dragged & dropped from, say, a Windows machine to a Mac and still run. So I'm guessing that what you ACTUALLY mean is that it would work in many different Windows versions (from the rest of your message I gather you are mostly concerned with Windows). Both Seamonkey and Thunderbird not only run on any version of Windows (well, unless you are using some really old versions, like from before Windows XP, or some uncommon server hardware, like IA-32), but they also offer Linux and Mac versions, It's even possible to copy user profiles (data files) from Windows to Mac to Linux and back, with a few caveats. > Every email client, including those packaged with Chrome, Yahoo and > Internet Explorer, I have tested as a replacement for Netscape 4.61, will > not allow me to drag and drop the the files. As a result, I am forced to > update files on a back-up wholesale rather than only those that have > actually changed. I'm unclear if you are mostly concerned about the program files or the mail storage files. If you mean the program files, sure, you could replace only the changed files when upgrading, but you run the risk of replacing something you don't want (like settings files). It's safer overall to use the program's installer or its auto-updater to do the job. If you mean the data files... well, yes, the MBOX structure Seamonkey and Thunderbird use (inherited from Netscape) allows this. You can even drop a mail store file that does not exist in that profile and it will be recognized when the program starts. I have done so in the past to deal with many special situations. But personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with using this tactic in a routine basis -- to much chance of making a mistake (like forgetting to close the program beforehand) and mangling data. > That task is made more difficult because the programs insist that my data > files be not just in a directory which is a subdirectory of a subdirectory > of a subdirectory of a....., but that hierarchy is also a subdirectory of > Program Files. With Netscape, I have been able, regardless of the operating > system, to have a directory at the root with Netscape as one of the > subdirectories, and other subdirectories for an editing program, a > professional search engine I use and my browser. No, actually, nowadays (and for quite a while now) most programs will by default store data files inside the user's profile, not the Program Files tree. Although that probably wouldn't help you very much, so it's not really relevant. > Further, I dislike their "insistence" that I use "their" programs for > importing and exporting of graphics, audio, text and other types of files, > because began working with other programs well before their versions, and > in some instances the data files of my programs are not compatible with > those programs, so I have chosen, to the extent the same has been possible, > to disable the integration. > > I have taken to composing my messages in my web-mail client, but the > problems there, among others, are: 1)I cannot use if "off-line"; 2)its does > not recognize mail composition as being active use, so will go into a sleep > mode, which disables the auto-save function while allowing me to continue > to compose a mail, the result being that portions of the message are lost; > 3)I also can lose significant portions of messages when my browser freezes > on me, which is one reason why I am looking at SeaMonkey over all other > programs, as I want nothing to do with Internet Explorer, Chrome, Yahoo or > Safari, and like that it has a similar pedigree to my current browser, > Opera (which has moved away from many of the aspects that differentiated it > from Internet Explorer).; and 4)having to have my browser open to use the > web-client is a resource hog. > I am not a programmer, but to the extent I have been able to "hack" > Netscape in the manner I have, it strikes me as possible to "hack" > SeaMonkey, which claims Netscape as its "ancestor", perhaps simply by > adding so coding in the Windows registry, but I clearly need assistance to > do so, as I do not know where that code would need to be added or what that > code might be. It should be possible to do what you want with Seamonkey (or Thunderbird for that matter, if you don't need/want the browser part), yes. But installing it in its own folder and moving the profile to its own folder demand a bit of tweaking. You might want to look instead into PortableApps' Seamonkey Portable and/or Thunderbird Portable. Those are slightly modified versions that don't link themselves into the operating system, so they can be stored in a flash drive and ran anywhere. They install into any folder you prefer, with the data files as a subfolder of it. But you would have to create the program shortcuts by hand, since by design these versions don't make *any* change to the operating system -- including listing themselves as installed programs. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... 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