On 12/14/2014 09:35 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/14/2014 12:28 PM:
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/13/2014 7:36 PM:
>>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/13/2014 2:19 PM:
>>>>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>>>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/13/2014 1:18 AM:
>>>>>>>> Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it looks like Seamonkey automatically disables the Flash
>>>>>>>>> plug-in if
>>>>>>>>> it's older than a certain version.  But.. the update button takes
>>>>>>>>> one to
>>>>>>>>> a security alert, not an update page, which leads to two questions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're right, that's really user-unfriendly and has been for some
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. How does one update it?, or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you skim through all the fine print in the security alert (I
>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>> you're referring to
>>>>>>>> <http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb14-27.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or something like it), you'll find a link to Adobe's download
>>>>>>>> center.
>>>>>>>> Once you've done it a couple of times, you'll learn to scan through
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the chaff and find it. You're looking for the phrase "Flash Player
>>>>>>>> Download Center" near the bottom.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. How does one remove it, to force sites to push HTM5 video
>>>>>>>>> (there is
>>>>>>>>> no remove button under tools/add-ons/plugins, the way there is for
>>>>>>>>> extensions).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Seamonkey 2.31, Macintosh)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Windows, the program has to be removed via the Control Panel --
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> not a feature of the browser, but an independent program (though it
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> generally play nice with the browser). For the Mac, look here:
>>>>>>>> <https://forums.adobe.com/thread/928315>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not go directly there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I agree the plugins check should link there, but it doesn't.
>>>>>> Should
>>>>>> the user have to bookmark or memorize that link instead, or come
>>>>>> here to
>>>>>> ask for it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fer God's sake, the user should bookmark the link to the add-on that
>>>>> needs frequent updating.  Is that unreasonable?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus!  Just save the frigging link instead of re-inventing the wheel.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't an Adobe support site, it's a SeaMonkey support site. The OP
>>>> came here because _Mozilla's_ plugin check was so unfriendly he couldn't
>>>> figure out how to update the plugin. So for us here at
>>>> mozilla.support.seamonkey the issue is Mozilla's unfriendly plugin
>>>> check. That's something we should fix.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was referring to:
>>>
>>>>> 1. How does one update it?, or
>>>>
>>>> If you skim through all the fine print in the security alert (I assume
>>>> you're referring to
>>>> <http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb14-27.html>
>>>> or something like it), you'll find a link to Adobe's download center.
>>>> Once you've done it a couple of times, you'll learn to scan through all
>>>> the chaff and find it. You're looking for the phrase "Flash Player
>>>> Download Center" near the bottom.
>>>
>>> The link provided requires much more work to find what is needed than
>>> the direct one I provided.
>>
>> Agreed. This is the link provided by our plugin check, and it does
>> require too much work to find what is needed. That should be fixed.
>>
>> By mentioning it in my reply, I was merely demonstrating that I
>> understood and could replicate the OP's user experience. I was not
>> advocating this circuitous route as the ideal solution that should be
>> foisted off on all users. But you're right that I sounded too accepting
>> of the status quo and resigned to its permanence.
>>
> 
> ;-)
> 
> I certainly agree with you that the Mozilla plug-in check is messed up.
> 

Usually I have a problem with the Plugin check page - particulary with
Adobe Flash & linux. Today when checking the page works fine.. it
actually shows the correct version & status. When clicking the the
action button, it takes me directly to:
<http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/>.
  Just checked on a Windows machine with an outdated Adobe Flash & the
action link takes me to the same URL: <http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/>.


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