Ed Mullen wrote on 07/09/2016 16:15:
On 9/7/2016 at 7:31 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:
On 7/09/2016 5:15 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
David E. Ross wrote on 05/09/2016 22:38:
On 9/5/2016 12:17 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
Jerry wrote on 04/09/2016 15:12:
I've been following this thread with much interest, since I had the
same problem with CHASE. I am happy to report that as of today I can
now log into my Chase account with Seamonkey 2.45 on Linux.
I have the User Agent Switcher addon installed. In that I entered a
new User Agent I named Seamonkey. For the User Agent string I have
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0". I removed Seamonkey from the end of the string
(taking
the clue from David's last post), and now it works!
Oh, I did go in and delete all chase.com cookies before I tried
to log
in to Chase.
Thanks to all of you for not giving up and sorting this out!
As I said before .. SM must ONLY have Firefox in his User Agent
String ...
... when "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is checked.
No, that would indicate Firefox is the browser. "Advertise Firefox
compatibility" should indicate both SeaMonkey and Firefox.
Actually, when I use PrefBar's user agent spoofing, my user agent
strings is
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.40, NOT Firefox/45.0
If I were to enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility", the string
would be
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
Many cases of user agent sniffing merely look for "Firefox" without
considering the rest of the string. It would be better to look for
"Gecko", in which case all this discussion would be moot. Of course,
that would have to change when Gecko is abandoned in favor of
Servo; but
that replacement is not yet certain.
I just think that if SM say that It is Firefox ... NO problems when
webmasters does bad sniffing.
It's more sites than "a few" .....
Most of WebMasters ignore SeaMonkey ... saying : what's that ?
And don't care about "gecko" which is not a browser ...
And as long as they don't know about SeaMonkey or any of the other
browsers that are based on Gecko, the "WebMasters" will never know about
SeaMonkey or any of the other browsers that are based on Gecko!!
I don't think anyone here is suggesting that *you have to*, but then
don't complain when your SeaMonkey Browser that is advertising itself as
Firefox doesn't work as you would expect it to.
The problem is that Web site designers are doing non-standard things
and shouldn't be. If they'd design standards-compliant pages there'd
be no need for sniffing.
<https://www.sitepoint.com/why-browser-sniffing-stinks/>
That's correct. And in respond to "don't complain when your SeaMonkey
Browser that is advertising itself as
Firefox doesn't work as you would expect it to." I say: IF Firefox
render correctly the website SM will do the same.
In addition, you can speak about SeaMonkey to WebMasters ... they will
continue to ignore this Browser ... they don't care about the great list
of other Browsers that exist, they support.only their little list.
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