flyguy wrote:
[email protected] wrote on 2/12/2017 5:53 AM:
flyguy wrote:
This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile:
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166&mi_u=64767442
Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times.
The link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and
IE 11.
Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last
couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote
marks), I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza
places in the area, under which is a list of those places.
Clicking on a pizza place in the list takes me to another tab,
which remains blank with status line showing "done". I used get
what I still get in IE and Chrome: the list of places, and a full
map overlaid with box showing the details of the place I clicked
on.
I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link
the menu that's under the Google search box at the top.
The issue with Google also seems to be dodgy user-agent sniffing. I
can get it to work by configuring SeaMonkey to present Firefox's
user-agent to Google. The "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not
sufficient; it seems we need to remove all mention of SeaMonkey
from the user-agent string. To do that:
1. Enter about:config in the address bar
2. Accept the warning
3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "useragent"
4. Ensure "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" is set to
"true" (double-click to toggle if it's not)
5. Right-click > New > String
6. For the name, enter
"general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk" (or whichever local
version of google you get directed to)
7. For the value, enter "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0"
Optional - If you want, you can work out a user-agent string which
more accurately reflects your OS and the Firefox version
corresponding to your SeaMonkey version, as follows:
1. Enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (under Edit >
Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking or
"general.useragent.compatMode.firefox" in about:config)
2. Help > About SeaMonkey
3. Copy the string after "User agent", but without the
"SeaMonkey/<version>" at the end.
4. Set "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to your preferred
setting (it just needed to be enabled to get the Firefox version
into the user-agent string for step 3).
I used this string from Help, after removing the Seamonkey/2.46:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
The response is different than it was. When I use "pizza in richland
wa" (no quotes): I get the usual pizza list and a small map, but When
I click on a place or the map, the page reloads with the Google
search box at the top, and only a menu bar under it. The bar has:
<back arrow> Rating Pizza Hours Clear Filters X
The status bar reports "Done".
Better than a blank page, but not quite there :^(
After a bit more experimenting, it seems that it may be necessary to
check a few other settings as well:
- Enable JavaScript for Google (in case you've disabled it, or using a
script blocker like NoScript)
- Set the user-agent for www.google.co.uk (or your local variant) to a
Firefox user-agent
- Turn OFF "Advertise Firefox compatibility"
Yes - set the user-agent sting for Google to something indicating
Firefox with no mention of SeaMonkey, and also turn OFF "Advertise
Firefox compatibility" so that the default user-agent indicates
SeaMonkey with no mention of Firefox! That changing "Advertise Firefox
compatibility" makes a difference suggests that there may be another
domain involved which isn't affected by the specific user-agent
override, but I can't work out what it is.
I've been able to produce at least 3 different results depending on
combinations of these settings. After changing the settings, go to
www.google.com (it redirects to a local version, www.google.co.uk for
me), search for "pizza", click one of the places listed under the small
map, and depending on the combination of settings...
1. With JavaScript disabled: Another search results page, with the
search term changed to the name of the place I clicked.
2. With JavaScript enabled, SeaMonkey default user-agent, with or
without "Advertise Firefox compatibility": A menu bar but no content
underneath. This sounds like what you're seeing now. I had assumed this
is what you originally described as "another tab, which remains blank",
but it now sounds like you really were seeing a completely blank page.
3. With JavaScript enabled, general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk
set to a Firefox-only string (either the one I suggested or yours minus
" SeaMonkey/2.46"), and "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled: A
page with the other places listed down the left, a large map on the
right, and details about the one I selected in a panel covering the left
side of the map. I think this is what you're expecting.
I wouldn't like to guarantee the same behaviour from other regional
versions of Google though! There's some very odd browser detection going
on here...
--
Mark.
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